Niku VIII Funding

Started by Ric Gillespie, August 14, 2014, 05:38:43 PM

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Ric Gillespie

An unexpected benefit of an effort like this is the way it puts human character on display.
- I have seen rich and powerful people make generous public pledges and then disappear.
- I have seen people who have an awful lot to say but nothing much to contribute.
- I have seen people who relegate much of their disposable income to supporting TIGHAR rather than to supporting their favorite pastime. To them I am especially grateful.
- I have seen people who struggle to make ends meet find some way to send a donation, however small.  Those people have a special place in my heart.

Martin X. Moleski, SJ

Quote from: Krystal McGinty-Carter on May 19, 2015, 05:13:50 PM
Thank you for clarifying. Im not always the best judge of internet language...that and Im in a grumpy mood today for unrelated issues. I apologize.

No blood, no foul.  :)

I apologize for not writing a better post. 

All the best!
LTM,

           Marty
           TIGHAR #2359A

Krystal McGinty-Carter

Id fit in with the crabs nicely. Maybe I can be a translator on a future expedition.   ;D

-Krystal "Crab Whisperer" McGinty

Brad Mackey

I'm in for 25 bucks.  Who's next?

George Lam

#214
$25 it is... sending now.

Edit:
I decided to purchase an awesome TIGHAR baseball cap instead @ $35.  I'm hoping a portion of this will go towards the expedition...

Alfred Hendrickson

Quote from: Krystal McGinty-Carter on May 19, 2015, 05:13:50 PM
...that and Im in a grumpy mood today for unrelated issues.

I'm responding to Krystal's grumpiness today by donating $25, per instructions.

;D


Krystal McGinty-Carter

Quote from: Alfred Hendrickson on May 20, 2015, 11:57:32 AM
Quote from: Krystal McGinty-Carter on May 19, 2015, 05:13:50 PM
...that and Im in a grumpy mood today for unrelated issues.

I'm responding to Krystal's grumpiness today by donating $25, per instructions.

;D

This makes me less grumpy. Thank you!

Krystal "Her Royal Crabbiness" McGinty

Ted G Campbell

Ric,

I was just wondering about the planning for Niku VIII.  Some of the questions/contingency possibilities are:

Questions/Contingencies

•   What kind of and timing is there between Niku on-site communications with our TIGHAR web site here in the U.S.?

•   Is it possible to extend the on-site expedition if we hit the "mother lode"?  At what cost?

•   Are we prepared to publish real time results of the expedition and at the same time seriously/vigorously solicit additional funding as the project is on going?

•   Do we (TIGHAR)  have any additional resources – such as an underwater grabber – on standby if the funding can be secured immediately (see the above funding question) and dispatched to Niku?

•   Has there been any consideration been given to the idea of passenger transfer between the "cruise line" and the "research vessel" (with appropriate monetary compensation i.e. additional funding) coming from those who want to be in on the hands-on discovery?  i. e. additional funding coming from those who want to be in on the hands-on discovery may be willing to contribute more if the "mother lode" is found and they want to become more involved.

Bottom line to this inquiry is:

If the Niku VIII is successful in locating the L-10 there is going to be an expediential increase in "what can we do next" and people are going to want to be personally involved.  Are we prepared for such an eventually?

Ted Campbell

Krystal McGinty-Carter

I was wondering some of the same things myself. Obviously being out in the middle of the ocean a thousand miles from nothing isn't the most ideal setting to be posting "live tweets" but I was curious how, if at all, they will keep those who will be back here gnawing their fingernails up to their elbows in anticipation updated during the expedition, particularly if the "ah-hah!" piece of the puzzle is found.

john a delsing

I just bought a cap, hope it helps. I be wearing it for the next few weeks,,,,,  yes even to bed.  Gods speed Ric and company
The Earth is Full

Krystal McGinty-Carter

Quote from: john a delsing on May 20, 2015, 10:49:32 PM
I just bought a cap, hope it helps. I be wearing it for the next few weeks,,,,,  yes even to bed.  Gods speed Ric and company

Pictures or it didn't happen. ;)

Martin X. Moleski, SJ

Quote from: Ted G Campbell on May 20, 2015, 10:06:35 PM
Ric,

I'm not Ric, but while we wait for him to check in, I can answer some questions.

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•   What kind of and timing is there between Niku on-site communications with our TIGHAR web site here in the U.S.?

In the past, Ric has filed daily updates by satellite phone to Pat, and Pat has turned those into narratives on the website.  So, for example, she has produced the "Land Team Briefing" for starters.

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•   Is it possible to extend the on-site expedition if we hit the "mother lode"?  At what cost?

Ric has answered this before.  He said that if it is possible to pick up material, they would ask permission before trying to collect it.  The ROV is not capable of securing large pieces of wreckage.

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•   Are we prepared to publish real time results of the expedition and at the same time seriously/vigorously solicit additional funding as the project is on going?

Ric told us that this expedition is not being subsidized by a television network because TIGHAR wants to keep the rights to the film.  My guess is that this means that we will not see "real time results," but will only get verbal updates as we have in the past.

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If the Niku VIII is successful in locating the L-10 there is going to be an expediential increase in "what can we do next" and people are going to want to be personally involved.  Are we prepared for such an eventually?

TIGHAR is prepared to undertake more expeditions to Niku in a general sense.

I can't imagine Ric trying to organize one while he is on one.

Having read all of the previous reports from all of TIGHAR's expeditions, I don't have the sense that there is a lot of free time or excess energy during the expedition itself.  They work hard and need to rest deeply. 
LTM,

           Marty
           TIGHAR #2359A

Ric Gillespie

  Marty has it right.

Quote from: Ted G Campbell on May 20, 2015, 10:06:35 PM

•   What kind of and timing is there between Niku on-site communications with our TIGHAR web site here in the U.S.?


As in the past, each day at I will make an early morning (mid-day here) verbal report to Pat via satellite phone about what we did the previous day.  She will write up a "Daily" report and post it on the TIGHAR website later that afternoon.

Quote from: Ted G Campbell on May 20, 2015, 10:06:35 PM
•   Is it possible to extend the on-site expedition if we hit the "mother lode"?  At what cost?

No.  Nai'a has to be back in Fiji on July 1st to prepare for its next charter.

Quote from: Ted G Campbell on May 20, 2015, 10:06:35 PM
•   Are we prepared to publish real time results of the expedition and at the same time seriously/vigorously solicit additional funding as the project is on going?

Pat is not bashful about asking for contributions.

Quote from: Ted G Campbell on May 20, 2015, 10:06:35 PM
•   Do we (TIGHAR)  have any additional resources – such as an underwater grabber – on standby if the funding can be secured immediately (see the above funding question) and dispatched to Niku?

The ROV has an grabber capable of retrieving small items. We wouldn't o more than that even if we had the capability.  Nothing is going to get dispatched to Niku.

Quote from: Ted G Campbell on May 20, 2015, 10:06:35 PM
•   Has there been any consideration been given to the idea of passenger transfer between the "cruise line" and the "research vessel" (with appropriate monetary compensation i.e. additional funding) coming from those who want to be in on the hands-on discovery?  i. e. additional funding coming from those who want to be in on the hands-on discovery may be willing to contribute more if the "mother lode" is found and they want to become more involved.

The tourist ship Fiji Princess will arrive a day and a half before we have too leave Niku.  They'll stay on for a couple more days after we leave.  They'll do some scouting under the supervision of the TIGHAR staff aboard Fiji Princess.   Stop thinking in terms of a "mother lode"  and being in on a "hands-on discovery."  If we're lucky we'll find more clues to add to our preponderance of evidence.  If we're REALLY lucky we'll find a big chunk of the airplane or some other artifact that can be linked directly to AE or FN.

Quote from: Ted G Campbell on May 20, 2015, 10:06:35 PM
If the Niku VIII is successful in locating the L-10 there is going to be an expediential increase in "what can we do next" and people are going to want to be personally involved.  Are we prepared for such an eventually?

If we are so fortunate as to encounter the a substantial body of wreckage underwater we will carefully document its position and condition so that we can return with the appropriate equipment and conservation materials to effect a responsible archaeological recovery.  Yes, there is likely to be a great deal of Hoorah which we will deal with as best we can.

Friend Weller

Since the mention of packing and shipping provisions and tools has come up in this and other threads, I'd bet if each member of the shore party were sporting a pair of these, it might give the local critters pause to give us a wide berth!   :D ;D :D

Best wishes to our intrepid shore, scuba, and sonar/ROV teams!  Only a few short weeks remain!  Every dollar helps, donate now!
Friend
TIGHAR 3086V

Gloria Walker Burger

I'm in for your $25, Krystal, but Ric it will have to be after the 1st.
Hoping for fair winds for the trip...
Gloria
TIGHAR #3760