Still from ROV video

[richie conroy]

look at the snapped end of tail the way it jaggers in, thats were our hatch fits  :D

[Jeff Victor Hayden]

Also notice how thin this shiny silver coloured material is?

were ur red lines are pointing to,  thats were the wheel is an the shiny stuff is the undercariage that wheel sits in when in flight  :o

The red lines point to the edge of the hatch/door you found Richie. It is constructed in two skins of alloy over an alloy frame, one outer skin, one inner skin. It's very thin, shiny, silver coloured which makes it stand out from the surrounding coral. Where the rope has chaffed against the edge it's worn away the coral exposing the brightwork beneath.
Jeff

[Jeff Victor Hayden]

Possible rudder/tailfin

Yellow = outline
Yellow again = straight row of rivets/holes
Blue = outline of damaged area containing the bright shiny silver coloured material (will post a still of this area later)
Notice also material peeling away at the bottom of the object

Which could have once been attached to the side of this oblong shaped object, red line side. I have no idea what the thing in the blue circled area is, any guesses?

[richie conroy]

jeff what we thought was a hatch is actully half the rear mono wing an that wheel is the tail wheel in the middle of them  :)

[Jeff Victor Hayden]

jeff what we thought was a hatch is actully half the rear mono wing an that wheel is the tail wheel in the middle of them  :)

I am still convinced you were right first time. Take a look at this door and, there's another in the cockpit... See the curvature and the latching/locking system plus the hinges. Anything held onto the aircraft with just hinges would be the first thing to come adrift. Also notice the shape of the handles

[richie conroy]

could be  :)

[Gary LaPook]

Possible rudder/tailfin

Yellow = outline
Yellow again = straight row of rivets/holes
Blue = outline of damaged area containing the bright shiny silver coloured material (will post a still of this area later)
Notice also material peeling away at the bottom of the object

Which could have once been attached to the side of this oblong shaped object, red line side. I have no idea what the thing in the blue circled area is, any guesses?

I don't know, it looks like the picture from my last colonoscopy.

https://tighar.org/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=571.0;attach=1035

gl

[Jeff Victor Hayden]

I have managed to be able to extend the outline of this object by enhancing the shiny, silver coloured metalwork (with accompanying holes)
If that looks like part of your colon Gary then, don't let your health insurance company find out, they will triple your premiums  ;D

[Chris Johnson]

Watched a documentry on the WW2 wrecks at Truuk Lagoon and what struck me was that all of the planes, trucks and other wheeled vehicles all had complete wheels on them.

[Jeff Victor Hayden]

Watched a documentry on the WW2 wrecks at Truuk Lagoon and what struck me was that all of the planes, trucks and other wheeled vehicles all had complete wheels on them.

I have seen that documentary too Chris. Everything down there is so well preserved it's amazing! If only AE and FN had put the electra into the lagoon at Niku we would all be able to see how well the wreck was preserved. The choice of the reef landing was theirs to make and, in hindsight it made it virtually impossible to find the plane. Check out the wreck of the SS Norwich City, same place, same outcome, devastation only worse for a lightweight plane compared to a few thousand ton steel plate ship.
Still, think positive. We are at stage 2 of the 5 stage process of identification.
1. Find debris = done
2. Is debris of aircraft origin = to be confirmed

Jeff

[Jeff Victor Hayden]

Yet more 'unreef like' objects to the right of the red line...?

[Chris Johnson]

Watched a documentry on the WW2 wrecks at Truuk Lagoon and what struck me was that all of the planes, trucks and other wheeled vehicles all had complete wheels on them.

I have seen that documentary too Chris. Everything down there is so well preserved it's amazing! If only AE and FN had put the electra into the lagoon at Niku we would all be able to see how well the wreck was preserved. The choice of the reef landing was theirs to make and, in hindsight it made it virtually impossible to find the plane. Check out the wreck of the SS Norwich City, same place, same outcome, devastation only worse for a lightweight plane compared to a few thousand ton steel plate ship.
Still, think positive. We are at stage 2 of the 5 stage process of identification.
1. Find debris = done
2. Is debris of aircraft origin = to be confirmed

Jeff

Guess I was trying to say that unless the action of waves and current have managed to remove it the tyre is likeley to be still on the wheel if it is there.

Agree that you can't compare the lagoon to the reef face.

[Jeff Victor Hayden]

Watched a documentry on the WW2 wrecks at Truuk Lagoon and what struck me was that all of the planes, trucks and other wheeled vehicles all had complete wheels on them.

I have seen that documentary too Chris. Everything down there is so well preserved it's amazing! If only AE and FN had put the electra into the lagoon at Niku we would all be able to see how well the wreck was preserved. The choice of the reef landing was theirs to make and, in hindsight it made it virtually impossible to find the plane. Check out the wreck of the SS Norwich City, same place, same outcome, devastation only worse for a lightweight plane compared to a few thousand ton steel plate ship.
Still, think positive. We are at stage 2 of the 5 stage process of identification.
1. Find debris = done
2. Is debris of aircraft origin = to be confirmed

Jeff

Guess I was trying to say that unless the action of waves and current have managed to remove it the tyre is likeley to be still on the wheel if it is there.

Agree that you can't compare the lagoon to the reef face.

Hope so Chris, that would be a bonus if the tyres were intact and, could be able to read the writing on the sidewalls? Lot of information on tyre sidewalls.

Jeff

[Randy Reid]

I'm sorry guys, I just can't see any airplane parts in any of the stills.
It is sort of like looking at clouds and seeing Donald Duck or Mickey Mouse or an Electra.
Richie's research and enhancement of the pictures is interesting though and I hope he keeps looking.

But I think I have a lead on what happened to the bodies:skull ;D

Randy

[Jeff Victor Hayden]

I'm sorry guys, I just can't see any airplane parts in any of the stills.
It is sort of like looking at clouds and seeing Donald Duck or Mickey Mouse or an Electra.
Richie's research and enhancement of the pictures is interesting though and I hope he keeps looking.

But I think I have a lead on what happened to the bodies:skull ;D

Randy

It's not easy Randy, you won't see anything recognizable as part of a plane down here. You will see bits that used to be aircraft. Some air disasters leave just fragments of wreckage, hardly recognizable as airplane at all. Now imagine 75 years worth of silt, sediment and residue dumped on top of aircraft fragments.
Jeff