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[Tom Swearengen]

yep its going to be a challenge, but thats why we're here

[Jeff Victor Hayden]

Here you go Ritchie
She found this to start with which I missed. She didn't put any pointers as to what we are looking at so I've added them.
Red: the thickness of the material
Yellow: the remainig straight edges
Blue: the square holes


Now, I have re-run the video from before and after the time displayed in the picture and, the ROV appears to parked on the reef for quite a while so, no camera blur or distortion.
I am pretty open to ideas on this but, coral creating SQUARE holes mmmm and, why is it so thin with shiny edges in the ROV lights.
All I am saying is, this is the one of the better examples of thin metal sheeting scattered about here.
I didn't give her any clue as to what we were hoping to find here buy, that's the first thing she found. it will be a week or two before I get anything more some magazine assignment or something.

[Shaw Durman]

And again

Is that a skull?

[richie conroy]

i think its a anchor from a smaller boat BUT

look at these images i attached wen u reverse the colour on the rope, which i now think is metal

its got the same noise sample

also look at the end of the object in question the anchor

look just left off the shell in image on right hand side, an notice its like a claw holding somethink

 

[richie conroy]

in the picture i have added look were the arrow is pointed could this be nessie

[richie conroy]

if u look at this inverted image wat ever it is, there seems to be a dark outline behind it

[Tom Swearengen]

Richie----i must admit that if you invert the pic, it appears that there is something on the reef. In my wildest imagination, I see a tail/rudder assembly, and blown up, looks like part of the rear fuselege. I dont think that will stand up to this forum, but what the heck!
My question might be, that is the Electra 'was' on the reef ledge, and the plane overflew it, why wasnt it seen? Parts should have been visible from the air.
Great work , by the way---again
Tom
 

[richie conroy]

tryed highlighting the out line to see if cud get better image

[richie conroy]

i agree its probably nothink, but its worth checkin with Admin to make sure 

[Tom Swearengen]

yeah---see my poor eyes have a hard time making out anything in those pics. Being cautiously opptomistic, (yep I said it!), I still would wonder why it wasn't spotted. If the water was shallow enough for a tail/rudder assy to stick out of the water, and that was still attached to part of the fuselege, then that should have been visible from the air. Granted, you would have to be low and slow, which they obviously werent. So---I'm kinda guarded with this one.

But---the location appears to coincide with the reef runway area, and far enought away from the shipwreck to possibly eliminate parts of that. I wonder if Jeff Glickman was able to clean up the picture enough to make out anything? Does anyone know? And------I would hope that the ROV was in this general area when the video was taken.

BTW---I've gotten through 53 pages of Finding Amelia---excellent work Ric. If I good get the DVD to work---
Tom

[Ric Gillespie]

You guys are looking at a white cap on a wave.  It's nowhere near Nessie.  The water in that location is several hundred meters deep.
My advice is to leave the forensic imaging to the pros.

[Tom Swearengen]

probably good advise for me.
Tom

[John Ousterhout]

Richie,  you can see where the reef ends in the picture.  The Norwich City is sitting on the edge of the reef.  All of the water beyond the reef is very deep, making it impossible for Nessie to be there.  The location doesn't coincide with the proposed landing location - that's a couple hundred yards away - on the reef, not in deep water.

[Jeff Victor Hayden]

Would ditching into the sea mean the wheels would be in the retracted position, hence nestled nicely into their cubby hole under the wing, engine nacelle?. And still be in their cubby hole now?
Jeff

[Tom Swearengen]

yep---ditching with the gear down would allow the gear to drag first, and pitch the nose down, adnd I would think, quickley submerging the plane. In this case, IF thery were to that ditched, they could NOT have run the engine for radio use and battery recharging for 3 days. I think the Electra would have sank pretty quick.
 My opinion-- some of you aeronautical engineers can set me straight.
Tom