Still from ROV video

[richie conroy]

i know its nessie but look in the box bottom left i have highlighted

[Harry Howe, Jr.]

Richie
Sorry about that, Mate.  No Offense?

[richie conroy]

here's more pics viewed from ship hull off Tighar's dots photo

[richie conroy]

non taken m8 i shud have made box to highlight bigger so my fault  ::)  :)

here another view from ship hull

[Monty Fowler]

Richie, while I admire your enthusiasm on the underwater ROV stills, I think the aboveground stuff, with its generally lousy resolution to begin with, is sliding more into Jeff Glickman territory. That's how I see it, at any rate.

LTM, who knows an expert is someone who knows when it's time to call in the experts,

Monty Fowler, TIGHAR No. 2189 CER

[richie conroy]

totally agree Monty i have the utmost respect for Jeff Glickman an co an the job they do, an i am no expert i just like posting stuff i come across on the off chance it could be something Tighar might find of intrest  :)

an it passes the time  :)

[Tom Swearengen]

I guess we'll see that Jeff says at the Symposium.

[Harry Howe, Jr.]

Perhaps, perhaps not.  I've been here on the Forum for 8 months now and haven't seen word one from the experts about Nessie.  Maybe I missed it.

[Tom Swearengen]

Me either Harry---but Jeff is supposed to be in DC-----so I assume that we can ask him---or anyone else.

[richie conroy]

right people what are your thoughts on, A on this image i only found it other day so want other people's opinions on what it could be.

D is the shadow of C

so is it possible that A is shadow of B

?

an what does the object A look like  :)

[Tom Swearengen]

Dont know Richie---hard for me to make out anything. But---the black dot doesnt appear to be a shadow. There are other white looking things on the reef, that may just be white caps from the wave action. The object at the reef line is interesting. My mind wants to say its a wing, broken off from the fuselege, but my eyes arent sure.
Perhaps its is another pic that can get some extra investigation.
Tom

[Martin X. Moleski, SJ]

Glickman would be the guy since he's on tap to talk.

Yes, Jeff Glickman is one of the featured speakers for the Symposium.  My guess is that he will be prepared to answer questions about his re-analysis of the aerial photograph.

[Jeff Victor Hayden]

Here's our old friend the wire/rope/cable again, this time from the 'Object' ROV footage. Notice again how the wire/rope/cable suddenly appears from underneath the 'coral' that is covered in shiny bits of metal etc...

[Dan Swift]

I am still convinced this is a headset.  And it is sitting on an obvious piece of framework or panel that has straight edge at 90 degrees.

[Jeff Victor Hayden]

I am still convinced this is a headset.  And it is sitting on an obvious piece of framework or panel that has straight edge at 90 degrees.

Yes, it's very tempting to try to add labels to these objects Dan. I think the best route is to try to work the metal that is lying about. We need identifiable parts of airframe/construction/techniques, fasteners, rivets, symmetry of holes, angles, evidence of tearing/shearing and stuff like that Dan. But yes, I agree it does look like the skeleton of a headset but, it's the object it's sitting on that is more important from the perspective of airframe and, again I agree, I don't like the 90 degrees and the straight edges, it doesn't look natural, it looks engineered. (but covered in... well, it's been there 70+ years, what would we expect to see?)