Still from ROV video

[richie conroy]

if u right click an save, an open in paint or windows an zoom in, its cables running too 1 spot, an sum are broke its like a wireing harness like u have in car behind dash  bunch of snapped cables an sum that are not because i actully thought it cud be the black rope stuff u have on a dinghy that runs round top but it is actully wires

also if u study images of wire further up vid, what looks like rope is actully a kind of conduit wat u put cables thru in sum places u can see were conduit has wore away an revels thin wire   

[Jeff Victor Hayden]

if u right click an save, an open in paint or windows an zoom in, its cables running too 1 spot, an sum are broke its like a wireing harness like u have in car behind dash  bunch of snapped cables an sum that are not because i actully thought it cud be the black rope stuff u have on a dinghy that runs round top but it is actully wires

also if u study images of wire further up vid, what looks like rope is actully a kind of conduit wat u put cables thru in sum places u can see were conduit has wore away an revels thin wire

The one I am trying to examine is pic 3. It looks similar to this

[richie conroy]

oh sorry will try get a close up for ye  :)

[Tom Swearengen]

Richie and Jeff----
on the still that you named poss+windows----at 13:43:44:14--
to the left of the red out line, at 270* there is what appears to be a wire with a shadow. ther is a circular shape, like maybe a starter, or a generator--
Can you check that out?
Tom

[richie conroy]

sorry jeff camera dont go close enough, but judgeing by what i can make out in minibridge, they appear to be bolted... through were loop starts an finishes  :(

[richie conroy]

tom it appears to be a mechanical object as 1 wire goes in an 1 out on opp side 

[Tom Swearengen]

and at 13:43:41:23, look just under the 13, under what looks like a round tube. Appears to be something louvered, of finned, like an oil cooler?

[Tom Swearengen]

Richie--
"winder" looks like a generator----the aft section. The bearing housing with the cooling holes. Cant see what the is on top of it, and dont know if they would have mounted the regulators on top (doubt it). But certainly does look like an electric motor of some kind.
(now that I figured out how to outline and post pics, maybe I can be of more help)
Tom

[Jeff Victor Hayden]

I'm getting there Richie. Something doesn't sit right with this end of the cable. It runs through an alloy duct or an outer skin/inner skin, Red lines. The blue arrow points to something that holds it in place. The end is looped, white circle. Whatever this cable is it's attached to the wreckage. You found something similar Richie on the other side of the fork in the cable. That appeared to be attached to an object very similar to this one.
I think I have worked out why the cable appears to be the thickness of rope in this section, I can't find 1 frame where the ROV isn't in full flight while pointed at the cable therefore giving it a blurred appearance IMHO
I'll try some different imaging software that can compensate a bit better for motion sickness.

[richie conroy]

i am not into planes an stuff that fly in air  :o so i just highlight stuff i know like windows, doors, engine props, wheel struts, tail parts, etc or i cud prob post some damning evidence,  as too wat were looking at, so go off what u guys reply really to get idea of what to look for...

things don't disappear, an when i seen finding Amelia on discovery, i decided to have a nose at story which brought me ere to Tighar, up till then i thought it had well been solved even the film "night at the museum" didn't flick the switch till i seen documentry

:)

[richie conroy]

here is a close up off earlier part ov video but same cable an it has conduit round it notice there is black line running thru it...

i think it may be earth strap as it seems to break off in places 

[richie conroy]

another american project am involved in, is of notes found on deceased person who was murderd,  an he had paper in pocket in code an fbi have asked for help see pic's below

it is no gain to me wether these are solved or not i just like to help others out

[John Joseph Barrett]

Tom,   I don't think the object you pointed out in the poss window still is a generator or anything like that. IMHO it is too far from where I would expect engine parts to be but right where I would think to look for a guage out of the overhead instrument panel. In fact, having disassembled any number of old project cars, it reminds me very much of the backside of a speedometer with the protruding part in the center where the driven cable would go and the wires for the lights to illuminate the dial side and/or warning lights. What guages were in the overhead panel and which, if any, were cable actuated. I think that is what this object is, IMHO. LTM-  John

[John Joseph Barrett]

Tom,   Not sure if the fins would be an oil cooler. Again, seems too far from where I would expect engine parts. How about louvers on a fresh air system to keep bugs and whatnot from blowing into the cockpit? My 1956 Ford has air intakes behind the grill that could swallow a small turkey that feed fresh air to the heater blower and cabin vents. The intakes are covered with wire mesh from the factory. Does anyone know what type of fresh air system the electra had, other than opening the side windows or roof hatch? I do agree that they definately look like aluminum louvers. What they are for is the question.  LTM-  John

[richie conroy]

remember the fact, it takes over 3 mins for the rover to get top to bottom ov video, an the rov is at same distance from reef bed, most of time, yet it takes rover at least 30 seconds from orignal postion to thump on to ground so gives u idea of scale only for cable straps i would still be thinking i was seeing rope, an thats even after at least 600 still pics an say 5 hours ov re runs of video

:)