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[Jerry Germann]

http://www.airrace.com/1936NAR.htm

Earhart's race number seems to have been number 20 ....was this painted on aft of the cabin door after the large E ....or just her last two digits in 16020???
Thaden had a 62 painted on the side of her fuselage..but her plane registration number doesn't include those two digits it seems.

[Ric Gillespie]

Earhart's race number seems to have been number 20 ....was this painted on aft of the cabin door after the large E ....or just her last two digits in 16020???
Thaden had a 62 painted on the side of her fuselage..but her plane registration number doesn't include those two digits it seems.

Good question.  So far no other photos of the Electra taken during the race have turned up.

[Jerry Germann]

And bottom of starboard wing;
Finish line photo,  http://www.womeninaerospacehistory.com/tag/vincent-bendix/
Looking for a starting line up , found 1937, but no 1936 thus far.

[Jerry Germann]

Ditto for "Mr Mulligan";  http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/models/aircraft/Howard-Mulligan.html

[Jerry Germann]

Reverse image of Bo Mckneely, cabin door and lavatory door

Here's the photo right-way-'round.  I'd love to know when this was taken.  The window is in the door so it's after January 1937. It's before Miami because the special supports for the "bug-catching" pole are not there yet (they were supposedly added in Miami).  Is that Fred visible through the window?  If so, then it's after March 12 when Noonan first comes on the scene.  There are what appear to be maps and charts sitting on the auxiliary battery so it looks like they're getting ready to go somewhere. But there is no navigator's table visible.  Could this be the departure for Miami on May 21?   If so it would confirm my suspicion that the navigator's table was not reinstalled when the plane was repaired.

Missing navigation instrument and mounting platform in the photo with Bo, so that may help date it;

[Jerry Germann]

Andrew,
I can't say this is the same box that is at the left knee of Bo, but it appears similar in size

[Bill Mangus]

Jerry, that's a nice bit of analysis in your #94.  If you can identify the photographer it might be possible to pin it down more precisely (and see if there are any others).

[Ric Gillespie]

Missing navigation instrument and mounting platform in the photo with Bo, so that may help date it;

That's the pelorus.  It was installed by the time this photo was taken (probably late February/early March).  The photo of Bo in the cabin may have been taken at the time of the November trip to New York.

[Jerry Germann]

Oh well, in addition to the dating issue, we probably solved two other questions in one fell swoop as well,..One That ain't Fred in the window, and Two that ain't Fred's sextent or otherwise box.

[Jerry Germann]

Pardon if this image has been posted and discussed here before, but it is one of my favorites,  I believe it is an image that all of us here hope to see one day ( or similar), and wanted to share it with those who may not have come across it before. One more try.

[Jerry Germann]

Missing navigation instrument and mounting platform in the photo with Bo, so that may help date it;

That's the pelorus.  It was installed by the time this photo was taken (probably late February/early March).  The photo of Bo in the cabin may have been taken at the time of the November trip to New York.

Oh well, in addition to the dating issue, we probably solved two other questions in one fell swoop as well,..One That ain't Fred in the window, and Two that ain't Fred's sextent or otherwise box.

Then again......the cabin door window is already installed, so that dates the photo post January 1937...so between the windows being added and before the Pelorus was installed.

[Ric Gillespie]

Then again......the cabin window door is installed,so that dates the photo post January 1937...so between the windows being added and before the Pelorus was installed.

You're right, so it's not the departure for New York in November  '36, but those maps on the aux. battery sure seem to suggest that they're getting ready to go somewhere. Could this be the departure for Newark on February 8? 

[Ric Gillespie]

Could this be the departure for Newark on February 8?

This photo was taken while AE was on the east coast in February.  The pelorus is not yet installed.  The hypothesis that the photo of Bo in the cabin dates from the trip in February looks pretty good.  Bo was on that trip.  What it not clear to me is exactly when Manning joined the team.  I think that AE, GP and McKneely left Burbank on February 8 and arrived in Newark on February 11.  Manning meets them in New York and rides back to California with them arriving in Burbank February 19.  At this time the special windows (door and lavatory) are present but the "navigator's station" (table, pelorus, instruments beside window) is not.  Manning supervises its construction after he arrives in California.

[Ric Gillespie]

This is an interesting photo.  Manning, Mantz, and AE.  That's Bo up on the wing in that same leather jacket he's wearing in the cabin photo. It seems like it must have been taken on February 19 when AE, GP, Manning, and McKneely arrived back in Burbank. I think that's Union Air Terminal in the background.  The only thing that makes me question the date/location is the way they are dressed.  Is the weather too chilly for this to be LA in February?

[Jerry Germann]

Will keep looking for articles about when Manning joined the crew,....since the windows were installed in January....it has been my understanding that the large lavatory window was installed at Manning's request,..so would his involvement be prior January 1937? Would he have had any input as to it's size, via phone, telegraph, etc , not being there in person while the electra was being modified?