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 on: Today at 06:40:05 AM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Bill Mangus
That's pretty close to Ric's first picture.

A couple of things to look at though.  Jeff's latest picture has a seam line forward of the fairing that, although hard to see through the paint, might be a line of flat head, flush-mounted machine screws.  I don't see a similar line on the Hellcat tank.

I'm also looking at the curve of the fairing as it sweeps up to the point where the flange attaches to the belly of the aircraft.  In Ric's first picture that curve seems very pronounced, almost U-shaped, although less so in my Hellcat pictures.  (Wish I could rotate Ric's picture 45 degrees clockwise!).  The curve of the fairing on the Zero tank seems to be more flat.

Absent a side-by-side hands-on inspection I don't know we'll be able to determine which aircraft the tank came from.  They're too similar.  In the end though it doesn't really matter if it came from a Zero or a Hellcat.  We can definitively say it did not come from AE's Electra and that's what really matters.

A fun exercise though!

Got another project Ric?


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 on: October 14, 2018, 07:44:49 PM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Ric Gillespie
Dad says that procedures had evolved by 1944.  The safety pins that, in 1941, were removed on the ground were later removed in flight by the bombardier when the aircraft had reached the target area. Another layer of safety.

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 on: October 14, 2018, 04:17:49 PM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Jeff Christmas
The shape, location, and details of the pylon on the mystery drop tank was just too close to the ones attributed to the Japanese Zeros/Zekes for them to be easily dismissed; however, every single image I have been able to find of the latter had the same annoying double row of rivets on the cylindrical section of the tank midway along the cord of the pylon pointed out by Bill Mangus.

I just came across this image that seems to show a Japanese drop tank with a similar design as that originally posted by Ric.  The double rivet row that had eliminated the other Zero drop tanks doesn’t seem to be there in this particular version.

http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/Harada/H-Zero-DropTank-36.jpg



Jeff Christmas




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 on: October 14, 2018, 09:05:48 AM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Ric Gillespie
A TIGHAR member recently took me to task for writing, in the Friendly Fire Myth section of the Phase 1 Investigative Report, "...bombs dropped into non-target areas were jettisoned unfused." 
He wrote, "Everything I have read claim bombs were armed before being loaded into planes on base prior to mission.
If mission were to be aborted, bombs then were dropped in English Channel.  I have never read
bombs were defused in flight upon return England. This does not sound correct."

His challenge prompted me to dig further into WWII bomb procedures and it's really quite fascinating (if that sort of thing interests you).  It turns out there is a big difference between “fusing” and “arming” a bomb.  Fuses were installed on the ground prior to the mission but the bombs were not armed (rendered capable of detonating) until they were actually dropped.  At any time, the bombardier had the option of disengaging the arming mechanism.  I should have written, '...bombs dropped into non-target areas were jettisoned unarmed."
How it all worked is explained in "Aerial Bombs: Method of Loading Bombs 1941 US Army Air Corps Training Film" (https://youtu.be/5vwwohaWJCg)

I've also asked my 97 year-old DFC decorated B-17 lead pilot father for his recollection of what the procedures were in 1944.  He arrived in England about the time Miller went missing.
 

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 on: October 13, 2018, 11:16:06 AM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Martin X. Moleski, SJ
Does this mean that there is a part number on the debris?

Yes. He provided this photo. Not much use.

That doesn't look like a part number at all.

It looks to me like something done in the field with a hammer and some punches and with no concern for aesthetics.

Tank #325.

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 on: October 13, 2018, 10:46:47 AM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Bill Mangus
Here's a better view of the Hellcat drop tank.  It's post-war and the site I got it from didn't cite where or which museum this is.


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 on: October 13, 2018, 09:43:32 AM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Jeff Christmas
Here is another zero drop tank.  It too has double rivet rows.

http://www.pacificghosts.com/guadalcanal/picts/gifu/a6m2_zero_droptank.html

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 on: October 13, 2018, 08:36:35 AM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Bill Mangus
Jeff's first picture sure looks at first glance like a match but:

In Jeff's picture there are three double rows of rivets.  I don't see comparable rows in Ric's first picture, especially the furtherst double row which should be present in Ric's first picture.

Dare I say it:  the rivet lines don't match. ;D






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 on: October 13, 2018, 08:09:23 AM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Ric Gillespie
Does this mean that there is a part number on the debris?

Yes. He provided this photo. Not much use.

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 on: October 13, 2018, 08:02:47 AM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Martin X. Moleski, SJ
The engine part No:325.

Does this mean that there is a part number on the debris?

It doesn't seem anywhere near long enough to be a real military part number.

But if there is a number on the thing, it may help narrow down the possibilities.

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