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 on: August 01, 2018, 11:46:04 AM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Ric Gillespie
(Edit. I know he was a Captain earlier.)
 I was thinking she read "Captain Noonan" somewhere.

Noonan never actually captained a ship although he had the necessary licenses.  He was frequently referred to in press accounts about the Earhart flight as "Captain Noonan" but Amelia never referred to him as "the Captain."  In her notes taken during the world flight she initially referred to him as "Freddy" and later as "Fred."  Other short wave listeners heard her refer to him only as "my navigator."

 92 
 on: August 01, 2018, 11:37:53 AM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Ric Gillespie
I wasn't sure we had all of the copies/ versions of the messages yet. Les Kinney mentioned not all of the documents were uploaded.

I feel sure we do not have all of the versions but we have enough to see what was going on.

 93 
 on: August 01, 2018, 10:49:25 AM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Greg Daspit
In the Southern Appalachian Archives.org site.
"The Call of a Courageous Woman" document notes the last time she heard Earhart was August 10th but it's grouped with a letter dated July 30th?
The date of this document and what "message" was actually "enclosed" with the letters is important.


"The Call of a Courageous Woman" document pretty well destroys Paxton's credibility.  After repeatedly sayin she wasn't pay close attention to what she heard on July 3rd, she writes an extremely detailed account of what Earhart supposedly said, including:
"The Captain isn't right here with me; he is over near the plane."  Earhart would never refer to Noonan as "the Captain" and she has to be in the plane to be on the radio.


I agree.
(Edit. I know he was a Captain earlier.)
 I was thinking she read "Captain Noonan" somewhere.
A local paper perhaps
http://www.dailyindependent.com/news/earhart-mystery-has-ashland-connection/article_aa68717e-6aa4-11e7-abb0-235be63c5f1e.html

I wasn't sure we had all of the copies/ versions of the messages yet. Les Kinney mentioned not all of the documents were uploaded.


 94 
 on: August 01, 2018, 09:33:01 AM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Ric Gillespie
In the Southern Appalachian Archives.org site.
"The Call of a Courageous Woman" document notes the last time she heard Earhart was August 10th but it's grouped with a letter dated July 30th?
The date of this document and what "message" was actually "enclosed" with the letters is important.

Remember, these documents came from Paxton's papers so they are her copies.  The pencilled notes are her edits. It's apparent (to me anyway) that Paxton typed up the original version of "The Call of a Courageous Woman" document some time after her talk with the newspaper on July 9 and before her July 14 letter to Mrs. Noonan. She subsequently added to and edited the document as her memory of the reception evolved. As you noted, the version of "The Call of a Courageous Woman" document included with the July 30 letter to Walter Winchell could not have included the final paragraph. Also, Putnam's letter to her of August 5 disputes her reference to land northeast of Howland but she says nothing about land northeast of Howland in "The Call of a Courageous Woman" document.   

It's only after Putnam disputes her original account of what Earhart said that Paxton discovers the piece of scratch paper and changes her story to include "an island she called Marshall."  After that, she's off and running with her Marshall Islands references
 
"The Call of a Courageous Woman" document pretty well destroys Paxton's credibility.  After repeatedly sayin she wasn't pay close attention to what she heard on July 3rd, she writes an extremely detailed account of what Earhart supposedly said, including:
"The Captain isn't right here with me; he is over near the plane."  Earhart would never refer to Noonan as "the Captain" and she has to be in the plane to be on the radio.

The first report of Paxton's claim appears six days after the event and the reported content does not fit with any of the other credible messages. She then changes her story in response to Putnam's incredulity and embellishes it with details that cannot be true.
In light of this new information provided by Les Kinney (thank you Les), I think we have no choice but to move Nina Paxton to the "Not Credible" category.

 

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 on: July 30, 2018, 07:30:22 PM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Greg Daspit
In the Southern Appalachian Archives.org site.
"The Call of a Courageous Woman" document notes the last time she heard Earhart was August 10th but it's grouped with a letter dated July 30th?
The date of this document and what "message" was actually "enclosed" with the letters is important.

 96 
 on: July 30, 2018, 04:31:52 PM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Greg Daspit
I’m trying to understand how the information Nina is providing gets embellished or changes over time. One problem is the “message” she mentions as “enclosed” seems to be missing in two of the letters.

The July 22 letter to Noonan’s wife mentions an “enclosed message” but it’s not provided.

The July 30th letter to Putnam  mentions an enclosed message (that he sent to Mrs. Noonan). There are two sheets provided in the letter.  Neither sheet appears to be the a "message".
Both the 8-5-37 and 7-30-37 letters to Putnam appear to have bleed through printing apparent (typed on both sides of 1 sheet)

The July 30th letter to Winchell also has 2 pages. The first page mentions a “copy” of a message. The 2nd page appears to be in the format of a message with “The Call of a Courageous Lady” at the top. A very dramatic title scratched out.

So what is the enclosed "message" referenced in the July 22 letter to Noonan’s wife and in the July 30th letter to Putnam?  Is it the same as "The Call of a Courageous Lady” page attached to the Winchell letter?



 97 
 on: July 30, 2018, 03:22:42 PM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Ric Gillespie
1962 article.

 98 
 on: July 30, 2018, 03:20:29 PM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Ric Gillespie
Letter to Goerner

 99 
 on: July 30, 2018, 03:18:49 PM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Ric Gillespie
Third batch.

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 on: July 30, 2018, 03:11:47 PM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Ric Gillespie
Second batch.

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