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Ric Gillespie

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Re: Navigational Charts of Lae to Howland @ Oakland to Hawaii
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2020, 04:05:28 PM »

Now whether Miller retained the information of the revised location somewhere in his files and relayed it to Earhart is another story.  Certainly, he could have requested that information from the CG for her had he not retained a copy.  Hmmm...lots of coulds/shoulds, isn't there? 

Forget Miller.  Black is the one who "could have,"should have" and, indeed, may have ("To whom it may concern...") informed her.

In hindsight, the fact that AE couldn't see Howland when she was supposed to even if she was 6 miles off from the true position of Howland seems to me not the significant factor here.  Remember, even ships had no difficulties finding the island and they definitely didn't have the proper position of the island. 

Agreed. In our analysis, Earhart was new within 100 miles of Howland.

The biggest failure, in my opinion, was that AE didn't plan to arrive at Howland an hour or so before sunrise, where a bonfire on land and/or search lights on the Itasca could help guide her to the island.

Bonfires and search lights wouldn't help her if she 100 miles away. The biggest failure was her inability to operate her RDF.  She had the equipment necessary to find the island.  She just didn't know how to use it.
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Re: Navigational Charts of Lae to Howland @ Oakland to Hawaii
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2020, 05:52:14 PM »

Now whether Miller retained the information of the revised location somewhere in his files and relayed it to Earhart is another story.  Certainly, he could have requested that information from the CG for her had he not retained a copy.  Hmmm...lots of coulds/shoulds, isn't there? 

Forget Miller.  Black is the one who "could have,"should have" and, indeed, may have ("To whom it may concern...") informed her.

In hindsight, the fact that AE couldn't see Howland when she was supposed to even if she was 6 miles off from the true position of Howland seems to me not the significant factor here.  Remember, even ships had no difficulties finding the island and they definitely didn't have the proper position of the island. 

Agreed. In our analysis, Earhart was new  huh?  Nowwhere?within 100 miles of Howland.

The biggest failure, in my opinion, was that AE didn't plan to arrive at Howland an hour or so before sunrise, where a bonfire on land and/or search lights on the Itasca could help guide her to the island.

Bonfires and search lights wouldn't help her if she 100 miles away. The biggest failure was her inability to operate her RDF.  She had the equipment necessary to find the island.  She just didn't know how to use it.
If she had known there were to be lights before dawn and she couldn't see them when she was supposed to, then she would know that she wasn't close at all.  She relied upon Noonan and RDF to get her within visual range: aerial navigation good to 10 miles and RDF as a backup, neither of which panned out.  She needed yet another alternative to finding the island.

Howland was her only destination that was a small target, no other land mass nearby, and no city or infrastructure there to help guide her with lights and reliable radio beacons.  Howland might have worked if she went W to E, as there would be plenty of fuel reserves to search for the island if not found quickly.  Her reliance on Noonan and aerial navigation was overly optimistic and reliance on a technology that she had not mastered to date was pure hubris, particularly by being near her fuel limitations IMHO.
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Randy Jacobson

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Re: Navigational Charts of Lae to Howland @ Oakland to Hawaii
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2020, 06:24:28 PM »

Oh, and Miller was responsible for her first flight attempt: the destination after Honolulu was Howland.  If he didn't give her the correct location (if he knew of it) of Howland, then shame on him.  I don't place the blame on Black.
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