Can you add to the list of sextant numbers?

Started by Martin X. Moleski, SJ, July 16, 2010, 11:07:42 PM

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Jimmie Tyler

Quote from: Martin X. Moleski, SJ on August 17, 2013, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: Jimmie Tyler on August 17, 2013, 05:05:28 PM
  Oops, missed the second pic some how.. Here we go..

Thanks, Jim.  That sure looks like a very official NO plaque.  I'm not sure I've seen one like that before.
You are very welcome Marty, Nor have I. The answers we seek are out there somewhere. Attached to a string or two.  ;)
Jim, TIGHAR #4064

Andrew M McKenna

Looks like Navy 348 / Brandis 2763 just popped up on eBay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/F-E-Brandis-Sons-Co-Sextant-Antique-1911-United-States-Navy-Original-Case-/390659293992?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:3160

I'll going to ask about numbers on the box.

He has a narrative about Brandis sextants and their numbering that I haven't fully digested yet.

Andrew

Martin X. Moleski, SJ

Quote from: Andrew M McKenna on September 13, 2013, 12:22:02 PM
I'll going to ask about numbers on the box.

OK.  I'll put them in when you've got all the details.

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He has a narrative about Brandis sextants and their numbering that I haven't fully digested yet.

It's material taken from this thread.  Cf. reference to the Ameliapedia article toward the end.
LTM,

           Marty
           TIGHAR #2359A

Bruce Thomas

Quote from: Andrew M McKenna on September 13, 2013, 12:22:02 PM
Looks like Navy 348 / Brandis 2763 just popped up on eBay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/F-E-Brandis-Sons-Co-Sextant-Antique-1911-United-States-Navy-Original-Case-/390659293992?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:3160

I'll going to ask about numbers on the box.

He has a narrative about Brandis sextants and their numbering that I haven't fully digested yet.

Andrew

Andrew, as I squint at the brass plate that bears the NO number (and I hate to sound like someone who sees what isn't there amongst all the coral), I swear that I can see a faint fourth digit of 7. The spacing after the 8 is suspect, though. Just a curiosity on my part.
LTM,

Bruce
TIGHAR #3123R

Greg Daspit

Quote from: Andrew M McKenna on September 13, 2013, 12:22:02 PM
Looks like Navy 348 / Brandis 2763 just popped up on eBay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/F-E-Brandis-Sons-Co-Sextant-Antique-1911-United-States-Navy-Original-Case-/390659293992?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:3160

I'll going to ask about numbers on the box.

He has a narrative about Brandis sextants and their numbering that I haven't fully digested yet.

Andrew

Very Interesting! A Brandis case with what appears to be actual dovetail joints. See the 16th picture down.
3971R

Andrew M McKenna

In response to numbers on the box near the hinge, or a NO calibration sticker, Seller says:

"Sorry I don't see either one, other than the number on the box is the same as the sextant...."

Andrew

Greg Daspit

#216
The tag says the style of instrument is an Octant
3971R

Martin X. Moleski, SJ

#217
Quote from: Andrew M McKenna on September 13, 2013, 09:49:31 PM
In response to numbers on the box near the hinge, or a NO calibration sticker, Seller says:

"Sorry I don't see either one, other than the number on the box is the same as the sextant...."

The same as the Brandis serial number or the same as the N.O. number?  ::)

Edit: OK, I see that the N.O. is on a brass plaque on the box.

I've added 2763/348 to the table.  It is right next to 3547/173.
LTM,

           Marty
           TIGHAR #2359A

Andrew M McKenna

Another Brandis on Ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-US-NAVY-BRANDIS-SONS-SEXTANT-MARITIME-4028-4572-OBSERVATORY-/271300851978?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f2aca790a

Looks like the box is

USNO 4572 imprinted into the wood, with
Brandis 4029 stencilled

But the instrument carries USNO 4296.  Can't see the Brandis number

I'll ask the seller if he can tell us the Brandis number on the arc.

Andrew

Andrew M McKenna

OK, here is what the seller has to say:


<<<<<<<<<<<
Hi There -
The number on the left end of the arc is 4750.
The number stamped in black on the bottom right of inside lid is 4029.
The number etched in the wood on bottom right of the inside lid is 4572.
The number etched in the wood on the top right corner of the bottom part of box is 4572.

Hope this helps.

Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>

so that would make two pairs of numbers

USNO 4572
Brandis 4029
for the box

And

USNO 4296
Brandis 4750
for the instrument

Andrew

JNev

Cool Andrew - thanks for the follow-up on this.

I enjoy following this string - so many boxes, so many old sextants - but that box we know of on Gardner came from somewhere and just maybe, one day...

One haystack at a time - it is good to see people continuing to go after these details.  I hope for the 'big prize' but in a world the size of ours we may never have anymore than bits and pieces, and maybe enough of them one day to push this over the top.
- Jeff Neville

Former Member 3074R

Martin X. Moleski, SJ

Quote from: Andrew M McKenna on October 24, 2013, 08:27:08 PM
USNO 4572
Brandis 4029
for the box

And

USNO 4296
Brandis 4750
for the instrument


Thanks, Andrew.

Added to the table.
LTM,

           Marty
           TIGHAR #2359A

Andrew M McKenna

For the third time in the past couple of months this sextant is up for sale on eBay.  This is Brandis 4750 / USNO 4296 in the box originally for 4029/4572.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-US-NAVY-BRANDIS-SONS-SEXTANT-MARITIME-4028-4572-OBSERVATORY-/271316504995?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:3160


Current bid:    $249.99 - (Looks like it was set by the seller)
Shipping: $19.99

Looks like a nice instrument with all the parts, and given that it hasn't sold in the last 2 sales, this might be an opportunity for all you TIGHAR Forumites who have coveted owning a Brandis Sextant just for the pure joy of holding in your hands a close relative of the sextant that we suspect was contained in the box Gallager found on Nikumaroro.

Oooooh, the mystery and intrigue of it all, right in your own hands !!!  Brings out your inner navigator as you channel Fred Noonan....

I know I've enjoyed owning one - Brandis # 4297 / USNO #1880, and it cost me more than the instrument in this eBay auction, so the price is about right.  Makes for a nice conversation piece.

Go for it!

Andrew



Brad Beeching

For what it's worth, my wife and I were watching "Storage Wars - Texas" last night. One of the auctioned storage containers held a little surprise! A sextant, complete with all the lenses and a box. After rerunning the segment several times (thank goodness for DVR) I was able to read the label:
"Hezzanith Observatory" "London" embossed on a round coat of arms. Bellow that was the Certificate of Examination for sextant No. P-202, dated August, 1945. We were not able to see any othe numbers or details...

Brad
Brad

#4327R

Martin X. Moleski, SJ

Quote from: Brad Beeching on November 13, 2013, 04:50:13 PM
"Hezzanith Observatory" "London" embossed on a round coat of arms. Bellow that was the Certificate of Examination for sextant No. P-202, dated August, 1945.

Thanks, Brad.

We're looking for sextants with pairs of numbers, one from the manufacturer and the other from the Naval Observatory.
LTM,

           Marty
           TIGHAR #2359A