Can you add to the list of sextant numbers?

Started by Martin X. Moleski, SJ, July 16, 2010, 11:07:42 PM

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Andrew M McKenna

Thanks

small error in the comments to USNO 4017
Currently says:
eBay; in box for UNSO 1717/1982

but should say 4717/1982

amck

Martin X. Moleski, SJ

Quote from: Andrew M McKenna on March 26, 2013, 07:12:43 PM
small error in the comments to USNO 4017
Currently says:
eBay; in box for UNSO 1717/1982

but should say 4717/1982

Good catch!  Fixed, I hope.
LTM,

           Marty
           TIGHAR #2359A

Al Leonard


Is the list of sextant numbers still being compiled? Ebay has a very nice Brandis & Sons, Inc. survey sextant for sale now. Brandis number 5577, USNO number 4485. Inspected in 1941.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEXTANT-CASE-Nautical-1916-1932-USN-Mohogany-Case-BRANDIS-SONS-INC-/350765553573?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51ab4197a5

Martin X. Moleski, SJ

Quote from: Al Leonard on May 02, 2013, 10:34:58 PM

Is the list of sextant numbers still being compiled? Ebay has a very nice Brandis & Sons, Inc. survey sextant for sale now. Brandis number 5577, USNO number 4485. Inspected in 1941.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEXTANT-CASE-Nautical-1916-1932-USN-Mohogany-Case-BRANDIS-SONS-INC-/350765553573?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51ab4197a5

That is already on the list.
LTM,

           Marty
           TIGHAR #2359A

Al Leonard

I see it now :-[. Geez, I checked that list twice before posting...

Martin X. Moleski, SJ

Quote from: Al Leonard on May 03, 2013, 06:46:05 AM
I see it now :-[ . Geez, I checked that list twice before posting...

I use my browser's search function (CTRL-F in my world).  The table is in order
by Naval Observatory number--that helps if you just want to scan the list ...
LTM,

           Marty
           TIGHAR #2359A

Andrew M McKenna

Here is another brandis showing up on eBay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brandis-and-Sons-Sextant-/330933350805?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d0d2a3195

NO label on the box says Brandis 5628 and Navy 4954.  Stencil on the box corner looks like 5628 as well.  No image of the Brandis number on the arc of the instrument, but I'll ask the seller to look for it.

Andrew

Bruce Thomas

LTM,

Bruce
TIGHAR #3123R

Andrew M McKenna

Seller says

<<<<<
I have found the serial number: 5628.  I found this on the left end of the arc (as you pointed out) and also stamped on the inside of the box and on the certificate of inspection.  The naval observatory number is 4954.  This number is also written in pencil on the inside of the box twice and on the certificate of inspection.  The only other number I see is written in pencil twice in the box above the naval observatory number.  This reads, "DD 359". 

I hope this helps.  Let me know if it is worth a million dollars:)

>>>>>

DD-359 is possibly the US Destroyer USS Winslow (DD-359) which began construction in 1933, and commissioned in 1937 according to this Wikipedia entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Winslow_(DD-359)

If so, it is interesting that they were still issuing 1920's sextants to ships being commissioned as late as 1937.  The NO date looks like 12-23-1932.

Andrew

Martin X. Moleski, SJ

Quote from: Andrew M McKenna on June 02, 2013, 02:04:12 PM
DD-359 is possibly the US Destroyer USS Winslow (DD-359) which began construction in 1933, and commissioned in 1937 according to this Wikipedia entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Winslow_(DD-359)

If so, it is interesting that they were still issuing 1920's sextants to ships being commissioned as late as 1937.  The NO date looks like 12-23-1932.

I've added this information to the entry in the sextant table.
LTM,

           Marty
           TIGHAR #2359A

Martin X. Moleski, SJ

From an e-mail to Ric:

From: DANIEL C.

Date: June 4, 2013

I note that you folks are collating a series of Sextant Manufacturer's Serial Numbers against Naval Observatory Certification Numbers. In my possession is a Keuffel and Esser sextant, model #5227 that was manufactured about 1915/16 with K & E serial number 31475. 

The box is matching to the sextant. 

The Naval Observatory number is found on a shield that is inletted into the outside lid of the box, as well as being engraved on the arc of the sextant itself, and that N.O. is 616.

There is also a "Certificate of Inspection" U.S. Naval Observatory card in the box with the correct mfg S.N. and N.O. of 616 dated 9/29/41.

There was an earlier Naval Observatory "Cert" card that had been glued inside the lid, but there is no written information left on its remains, and only just enough paper and printing to tell with certainty that is what it was. So this confirms that it had been "Certified" by the Naval Observatory at a much earlier date, most certainly in the "teens" when it was still quite new, but sadly the actual date of that earlier inspection, and any of its results. have been lost to us. 

I hope you find this information of some use to you in your wonderful quest!

 
LTM,

           Marty
           TIGHAR #2359A

Andrew M McKenna

#191
Ebay has a Brandis listed that we've seen before in 2011 - NO #1889, but the new listing doesn't show the Brandis number which according to the Ameliapedia should be 4672. 

The box however, would seem to have # 4684 or 4687 or some blurry equivalent that doesn't look like 4672 - the one good photo showing the number on the box only captures the 46....

Dan Cotts reported back in 2011 that the seller couldn't find any numbers on the box, which seems odd.

I've posted a question to the seller asking about the Brandis number on the arc, and any other numbers that may be found.

Andrew

Andrew M McKenna

Here is an update from the seller of Brandis #4672 / Navy #1889:

Email #1
"Hello, yes the number is marked on the arc and is 4672 and the box has the matching number ink stamped on the inside of the lid. No other numbers or info on the box except for the company name. thanks"

Email #2
"Hi, I made a mistake in the last email. The number on the box is 4667 and not the same as the one on the sextant, 4672."

So we have Sextant Brandis #4672 / NO # 1889 inside the box originally holding Brandis 4667

Marty, can you annotate B# 4672 and add box #4667 to the Ameliapedia?

Thanks

Martin X. Moleski, SJ

LTM,

           Marty
           TIGHAR #2359A

Andrew M McKenna

New Brandis on eBay, looks like Navy 1565.  The NO sticker from 1950 lists the maker's number as No No. which seems odd, perhaps they just didn't look hard enough.  N.O. 1565 can be seen etched on the arc.

1565 is also written on the outside of the box, along with some other numbers.  looks like 62306-004879, but the last 4 digits are partially hidden by the handle.  I'm thinking the last 4 digits are the Brandis number as 4879 would fit well with our pattern of numbers.

I've asked the seller to try to find the Brandis serial number and any other numbers stenciled, imprinted, or written on the box.

Hopefully the seller will get back to me quickly.

Andrew