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Ric Gillespie

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Re: Malaysian Flight 370
« Reply #315 on: June 22, 2014, 02:43:16 PM »

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  Will the NSA shares what it knows? 
Hmmm...  since when has the NSA operated its own satellites?

If the NSA had its own satellites do you think we'd know about them?
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Re: Malaysian Flight 370
« Reply #316 on: June 23, 2014, 07:41:07 AM »

This just in...

Flight MH370: Official police investigation 'identifies captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah as prime suspect over plane's disappearance'


Malaysian cops reportedly found the 53-year-old dad of three had made no social or work commitments for the future, unlike the rest of his crew

The official police investigation into the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 has reportedly identified the plane's captain as the prime suspect.

Malaysian cops discovered that married dad of three Shah, 53, appeared to have made NO social or work commitments for the future, unlike other members of his crew, the Sunday Times reports.

Their probe also found that he had programmed a flight simulator with drills practising a flight far out into the southern Indian Ocean and landing on a island with a short runway, the paper claims.

The drills were said to have been deleted but later recovered by computer experts.

Take your pick -

- Island / short runway mere fictional way of getting to ditching point and practising same, as if a short field landing (low energy, like ditching), or -

- Practising short field work - and destination was a ruse as it didn't matter, but a way to conceal truly intended destination.

Conspiracies...

That he may well have been in on this alone does cast doubt on 'conspiracy' - more like lone nut wanting to make a 777 disappear for his own stupid reasons.  My thought is that if others had been on the receiving end (real short strip somewhere, etc.) that too would have been detected by now. 

But who really knows for sure, yet - still no 'island', nor runway, no bird.

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Re: Malaysian Flight 370
« Reply #317 on: June 23, 2014, 11:32:02 AM »

I wouldn't give to much weight to that theory without further supporting evidence. During my airline type-rating training, usually at some point near the end of successful simulator training if you had a little extra time, it was not uncommon for the Sim. instructor to allow the students to have some "fun" and build confidence. This included, in my experience, landing on a aircraft carrier, flying low-level through the Los Angeles financial district and doing loops around the Golden Gate Bridge as well as hovering flight. So programming a situation where-in you had to land a 777 on a postage stamp island from altitude is not that far of a stretch. I have read in more than one article that the Captain was an instructor pilot. They didn't elaborate as to whether he was a Sim instructor flying the line or if he was a line check airman.
I give the Captain the benefit-of-doubt at this point.

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Re: Malaysian Flight 370
« Reply #318 on: June 23, 2014, 12:38:02 PM »

I wouldn't give to much weight to that theory without further supporting evidence. During my airline type-rating training, usually at some point near the end of successful simulator training if you had a little extra time, it was not uncommon for the Sim. instructor to allow the students to have some "fun" and build confidence. This included, in my experience, landing on a aircraft carrier, flying low-level through the Los Angeles financial district and doing loops around the Golden Gate Bridge as well as hovering flight. So programming a situation where-in you had to land a 777 on a postage stamp island from altitude is not that far of a stretch. I have read in more than one article that the Captain was an instructor pilot. They didn't elaborate as to whether he was a Sim instructor flying the line or if he was a line check airman.
I give the Captain the benefit-of-doubt at this point.LTM,
Dave

There's a good bit of doubt about that Captain at this point, I'll give you that!  ;)
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Re: Malaysian Flight 370
« Reply #319 on: June 23, 2014, 08:45:40 PM »

Fake news story doing the rounds on Facebook...

http://job4pals.biz/nimak/27.php

I haven't shared it so have no idea what the report contains  >:(

This must be the place
 
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Re: Malaysian Flight 370
« Reply #320 on: June 30, 2014, 02:44:52 PM »

He would have to disable (kill) his copilot in order to do this.  I suppose that is possible....but could backfire too. 
And why practice ditching if you are going to kill yourself.   Just power up and nose down....
Is the theory then he was trying to land somewhere to disappear.  That means a boat waiting....and a bunch of pissed off people....unless he figured out a way to kill all the passengers....nah....this is too much.....
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Re: Malaysian Flight 370
« Reply #321 on: June 30, 2014, 05:19:39 PM »

He would have to disable (kill) his copilot in order to do this.  I suppose that is possible....but could backfire too. 
And why practice ditching if you are going to kill yourself.   Just power up and nose down....
Is the theory then he was trying to land somewhere to disappear.  That means a boat waiting....and a bunch of pissed off people....unless he figured out a way to kill all the passengers....nah....this is too much.....

Thunderball Hypothesis:

There is something (Hitchcock would call it "the Maguffin") that is of immense value to The Bad Guys (TBG).
TBG want to obtain the Maguffin without anyone knowing that they have it.
TBG learn that the Maguffin will be transported aboard MH370.
TBG recruit the cooperation of the pilot and possibly also the co-pilot either through bribery, blackmail or, more likely, willing cooperation due to sympathetic religious or political beliefs.
The plan is to make the airplane disappear by turning off the transponder and ACARS systems, then change course and fly to an airport with enough runway for a landing and a hangar big enough to hide the aircraft.
The passengers are inconsequential. Disposing of them is a simple matter of dumping the cabin pressure at altitude.  Their oxygen masks will deploy but the supply of oxygen will only last about 15 minutes.

Maybe they made it to the airport and TBG have the Maguffin, or maybe something went wrong and and the crew was incapacitated.  The airplane continued out into the southern Indian Ocean on autopilot until it ran out of fuel. Either way, somebody knows what happened.


 
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Re: Malaysian Flight 370
« Reply #322 on: July 21, 2014, 11:54:41 AM »


Thunderball Hypothesis:

Alternate Thunderball Hypothesis (more like a WTH moment):

Amelia Earhart is arguably one of the most famous people in the world, because she vanished without a trace.
Someone who want to have lasting fame - and not caring about fortune - conceives a copycat crime. Call them The Evil One (TEO).
TEO hits upon the idea of making him/herself disappear in a similar manner, but lacks the resources to duplicate Earhart's flight in a similar manner.
However, TEO does have the resources to commandeer a commercial airliner.
Such a comandeering, and subsequent vanishment of the aircraft and several hundred people, will assure lasting fame to TEO.
The TEO cares not a wit that he/she will have to force the vanishment to happen in order to assure lasting fame.

Fatal flaw - the TEO doesn't fail to adequately consider that if everyone vanishes, no one knows what happens ... or do they?

LTM, who kinda' enjoys the funhouse mirrors at the amusement park,
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Re: Malaysian Flight 370
« Reply #323 on: July 21, 2014, 12:11:41 PM »

Uhhhhh....and who is TEO?  That might be important information right there.  We don't know if it was the Captain, 1st Officer, Flight Attendant having a bad week, a Terrorist, Elvis, since he's not really dead, or...
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Re: Malaysian Flight 370
« Reply #324 on: July 23, 2014, 08:19:52 AM »

Exactly, Dan. We don't know.

In some respects, this is that oft hoped-for but seldom executed Perfect Crime.

It's just too bad that more than 200 innocent victims had to be pulled down the tubes with The Evil One to fulfill that person's twisted quest for fame.

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Re: Malaysian Flight 370
« Reply #325 on: July 24, 2014, 10:41:12 AM »

Annndddd, this just in, a comment under the story about the MH17 crash. I'm sure TECTIC would be behind this theory 100 percent:

"Please do your own independent research and really think for yourself. There is so MUCH glaring evidence about MH-17 being the old MH370 that went missing. We all knew when that plane went missing it was going to be used as some sort of false flag to cover Israel rolling into Gaza and geopolitically the US stands to gain by placing blame and more sanctions on Russia. This information is being aired on Mexico mainstream news and I believe in India and other places you wouldn't expect.

They had to change the flight paths because that one was through war zone 150 miles away from its normal path with the curvature of the Planet as it spins. All the Passports were brand stinking new, the tower people were taken out and replaced with "specialist" workers and sent everyone at the kiev airport home. The workers just said they were foreign. Why has the mainstream news and TPTB kept so much of this information from us from putrified bodies doctors in Holland are that these people were tortured for a long time and have been dead a long time. The bodies falling from the plane and no blood splat on a gravel road. Really dig and put the pieces together...

There is no way with our common aviation technology, especially since 9/11, that they always knew where MH370 was. I read about all the different forms of GPS and Sonar would have picked up a pretty massive blip with a crash. You can't just lose a plane these days it's impossible to disengage all 3 gps systems. They may have only got the one in the cockpit. Either way look at some of the wreckage photos when you count windows, plugged window holes, the site of the Malaysian flag is different on both planes but was not for this one. This matched MH370. That is why there are no conversations with pilots, unless the fabricate them this late in the game.

Doctors in holland are saying they have been dead for quite some time and all, even the children have been tortured plus sustained injuries from a crash. Israel and the US was hoping the separatists didn't secure the site so they could control the story better. Trust me I am no Russia supporter because their country is just as messed up as ours. Oligarchies and Oppression."


LTM, who can't even fathom most of that,
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Re: Malaysian Flight 370
« Reply #326 on: July 24, 2014, 10:45:33 AM »

The mind of a conspiracy buff is an awesome thing to behold.
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Re: Malaysian Flight 370
« Reply #327 on: August 08, 2014, 08:52:28 AM »

Airing tomorrow, Saturday, Aug. 9.  History Channel special about MH370 and other (sigh) "Ghost Planes."  Amelia and I have a bit part in the show.  I haven't seen it so I don't know how they've edited the hours of video they shot of my talking head.
http://www.pilgrimstudios.com/ghost-planes-special-to-air-saturday-aug-9-on-history/
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Re: Malaysian Flight 370
« Reply #328 on: September 11, 2014, 01:36:19 PM »

Here it is six months later and we're still just as much in the dark as the day the flight vanished.

I just hope it doesn't take 70 years to solve this one.

LTM,
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Ric Gillespie

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Re: Malaysian Flight 370
« Reply #329 on: September 11, 2014, 01:39:04 PM »

I just hope it doesn't take 70 years to solve this one.

Don't look at me.
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