The Question of 2-2-V-1

[Karen Hoy]

I have to be back at work on Saturday the 29th. Anything before that is great for me.

Karen

[Mark Appel]

Let's see if we can set a date for the Dayton trip.  I've checked with Aris Scarla (Manager, FAA Flight Standards District Office, Grand Rapids, MI) and he's free the last week of March.  Karen Hoy also suggested that time frame.  Sounds like stars aligning.
Any time from Saturday the 22nd to Saturday the 29 would work. Is a week day or weekend better for you guys?  We'd probably figure on arriving the day before, having dinner together at a local hotel, and hitting the museum first thing in the morning.  Thoughts?

Sounds workable. Love to take as much of the time as possible over a weekend, but will adjust to reality... (that may not jive with museum staff schedule). Look forward to it very much!

[Monty Fowler]

*ponders* A weekend. Dayton's not all that far away, but I've got to keep close rein on my vacation days this year.

We're going to be inside or outside? If it's outside, I'm gonna bring a raincoat, because I remember field school at College Park (as does Karen Hoy, I am sure).

LTM, who had fun grubbing in the mud,
Monty Fowler, TIGHAR No. 2189 CER

[Karen Hoy]

The museum website says they are open 9-5, 7 days a week.

Should we arrive in Dayton on Friday the 21st/Saturday the 22nd and visit the museum on Saturday or Sunday?  ;D

[Walter Runck]

They list a behind the scenes tour on Fridays.  I'd like to catch that as part of the trip. 

[Ric Gillespie]

They list a behind the scenes tour on Fridays.  I'd like to catch that as part of the trip.

We should do that.  It will get us into the restoration area where it will be easier to connect with the people we want to talk to without a lot of bureaucratic red tape.

Karen says, "Should we arrive in Dayton on Friday the 21st/Saturday the 22nd and visit the museum on Saturday or Sunday? "

Aris Scarla wouldn't be able to do Friday the 21st.  Could everyone do Friday March 28?  We'd get in the day before, have dinner together, and be there when they open the doors on Friday.

[Karen Hoy]

I can be there Friday the 28th.

[Karen Hoy]

The website says the behind the scenes tours begin at 12:15 pm on Fridays. Advance registration is required.

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/visit/tours.asp

[Karen Hoy]

Just noticed that registration for the March 28 tour is closed. A "limited" number of standby spots may be available.

Does the museum ever do special tours for unique groups (like TIGHAR?)

[Ric Gillespie]

The website says the behind the scenes tours begin at 12:15 pm on Fridays. Advance registration is required.

I could get us all registered (assuming they have room) if everyone can make that date.

[Ric Gillespie]

Just noticed that registration for the March 28 tour is closed. A "limited" number of standby spots may be available.

Does the museum ever do special tours for unique groups (like TIGHAR?)

I'll call the museum tomorrow.

[Ted G Campbell]

Ric,
I am working on three of us here in GA.  We'll fly up in my bird if we can agree.
Ted Campbell

[Jeff Lange]

Aris Scarla wouldn't be able to do Friday the 21st.  Could everyone do Friday March 28?  We'd get in the day before, have dinner together, and be there when they open the doors on Friday.

I can make that timeframe work. Being self employed, my boss lets me have time off just about anytime! :-)

[Mark Pearce]

The same online source for the Douglas C-47 manual posted on Feb. 25th also has the repair manual for the Consolidated PBY-5.  It's a bit of a surprise to learn that virtually all the skin plating above the chine on the PBY-5 hull was .030" Alcad, or thinner material than might be expected.  That's not the same as 2-2-V-1 and .032 I realize, but the manual does call for repairs to damaged .030 hull skin to be made with .032 material [...and AN456-4 rivets- the 1/8" shank rivets with the same head as the AN455-3 rivet.  See page 94 of 182.]

Look under "Other Airframes"

http://miravim.org/avimlibrary/Manuals/Airframe%20Manuals/

Consolidated 01-5M-3 (PBY-5 , 5A, 6A - Handbook of Structural Repair Manual)

[Ric Gillespie]

I've been back and forth today with Roger Deere, head of the restoration shop at NMUSAF. Their shop works a "compressed" work week.  Not many of his people are around on Fridays (just enough to do the tours).  We're trying to set up something that will work for everybody.