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Re: The Bevington Photo
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2010, 12:03:34 PM »

Hope that the high resolution scan would reveal something better than the enlarged image posted on this website. Looking forward to it. I'm closely following the upcoming Niku VI!!! By the way, thanks Ric for your book Finding Amelia (and Tom King's Thirteen Bones), which I received some two weeks ago from Amazon. Perhaps they are the only copies that have reached Pakistan(!? ;D) or is there any other Tighar fan over here that you know?! Good luck on your expedition!
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Re: The Bevington Photo
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2010, 12:19:34 PM »

Thanks Rey!  If don't know we have any others fans in Pakistan.  I'm always amazed that we have so many fans around the world.
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Re: The Bevington Photo
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2010, 06:36:12 PM »

Ric,
Do you expect to have a high resolution copy of the subject photo before you leave for Niku?  Are you planning to post the photo as soon as you get it?
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Re: The Bevington Photo
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2010, 06:51:29 PM »

I hope to have the scan in a few days. I'll ask Jeff Glickman, our forensic imaging specialist, to analyze it before we say anything about it. 
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Re: The Bevington Photo
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2010, 10:41:49 AM »

After looking at the full size photo and the cropped enhanced version I can see where the object may be one of the main gear assemblies standing upright on the reef. What I am wondering is can anyone determine how far from the shoreline the object is and what the water depth would be there? This might allow some guesstimate of the size of the object and either allow or eliminate the gear as a candidate. Additionally, if it is a gear assembly, would that be some type of mount plate on the top of it. Being somewhat mechanically inclined but not familiar with the Electra's construction, I would think that the strut would be affixed to some type of plate to spread the load upon landing. From there it would attach to the rest of the structure. Riveted aluminum structure held in place would be torn away by repeated wave action. If this is a gear assembly in the photo, would it be likely to have separaed from the rest of the plane in such a way? Pure conjecture I know, but since I can't go on the expedition I have to do something. LTM
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Re: The Bevington Photo
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2010, 06:47:22 PM »

Ric,
I'll ask again, has this photo been shown to the guy who saw the "wheel of forturne"?
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Re: The Bevington Photo
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2010, 07:12:47 PM »

No.  The location is nowhere near where he says he saw a wheel and there's not enough detail visible for him to have any idea of whether it resembles what he saw.
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Re: The Bevington Photo
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2010, 07:04:17 AM »

We have the hi-res scan of the Bevington Photo from the Rhodes House Library at Oxford. It's interesting and quite different than we expected. The scan exhibits light-colored markings on and around "Nessie" that are not apparent in our 1992 copy-photo. Our forensic imaging specialist, Jeff Glickman of Photoek, is currently trying to determine whether the light-colored markings are:
- damage to the photo that occurred since 1992
- reflection from shiny metal (such as aluminum)
- reflection from splashing water
- some combination of any or all of the above

The scan does provide more detail about the dark-colored areas and reveals recti-linear shapes that suggest a man-made object. Nothing conclusive yet but Jeff is working on it. He'll also pin down where Bevington was which will help us pin down where Nessie was so that we can at least go to that spot during the upcoming expedition and see if there is anything at all still there.

Oxford is really draconian about permission to publish images so we probably won't be able to put the hi-res image on the website.
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Re: The Bevington Photo
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2010, 02:53:39 PM »

We have the hi-res scan of the Bevington Photo from the Rhodes House Library at Oxford. It's interesting and quite different than we expected. The scan exhibits light-colored markings on and around "Nessie" that are not apparent in our 1992 copy-photo. Our forensic imaging specialist, Jeff Glickman of Photoek, is currently trying to determine whether the light-colored markings are:
- damage to the photo that occurred since 1992
- reflection from shiny metal (such as aluminum)
- reflection from splashing water
- some combination of any or all of the above

The scan does provide more detail about the dark-colored areas and reveals recti-linear shapes that suggest a man-made object. Nothing conclusive yet but Jeff is working on it. He'll also pin down where Bevington was which will help us pin down where Nessie was so that we can at least go to that spot during the upcoming expedition and see if there is anything at all still there.

Oxford is really draconian about permission to publish images so we probably won't be able to put the hi-res image on the website.

Very intresting information, Ric! Thanks for providing us with it! Hope we can know the conclusion soon! :)
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Re: The Bevington Photo
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2010, 06:23:07 PM »

Ric,
Anything new on the Bevington photo?
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Re: The Bevington Photo
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2010, 10:00:44 PM »

Ric,
Anything new on the Bevington photo?

That's what I want to know, too.
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Re: The Bevington Photo
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2010, 07:15:51 AM »

Nothing new on the Bevington photo.  Jeff Glickman will try to have whatever results he can get before we leave.  He is not going to be able to tell us what that thing is (or was), but he may be able to tell us more about it.  He should be able to tell us whether it's likely to have been a man-made object and, most important, he should be able to tell where it was so that we can go to that spot and see if there is anything there now - even if only scars from the thing that was there before.
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Re: The Bevington Photo
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2010, 08:42:15 AM »

Nothing new on the Bevington photo.  Jeff Glickman will try to have whatever results he can get before we leave.  He is not going to be able to tell us what that thing is (or was), but he may be able to tell us more about it.  He should be able to tell us whether it's likely to have been a man-made object and, most important, he should be able to tell where it was so that we can go to that spot and see if there is anything there now - even if only scars from the thing that was there before.

Ric,

Thanks so much for the update! I can't wait to hear what that object was... even if it's gone now!
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