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[Ric Gillespie]

I agree that the cleanest, highest resolution versions of this should be made available if we are serious about studying this.

Lloyd, this is not amateur night. TIGHAR is indeed serious about studying all of the available imagery that might provide clues to solving the mystery of the Earhart disappearance.  That's why we seek the advice of experts and openly discuss their findings.  That's why jeff Glickman and I are going to New Zealand next week.
After exhaustive review and discussion, I remain satisfied that there is nothing of importance in the 2010 ROV video. That's why I'm not going to go to great lengths to make available the huge full-resolution files.  If you want to review previously expressed imaginings about objects in the video I suggest you visit Summary of Debris from 2010 Video .  The thread is locked so you won't be able to add your imaginings there, or here.  I locked the topic on January 13, 2013 because I felt the bizarre nature of the imaginings were hurting TIGHAR's credibility.  Subsequent events have reinforced that opinion.

We're not going to entertain further discussion of the 2010 ROV video.  The topic of this thread is the Cook Photo.  I'll remove off-topic postings.

[Tim Mellon]

If some percentage of your identifications are false positives, then I think we can resolve that by following the "hits" we see going uphill. There could be one of the wings, an engine, propeller and one of the landing gear sets above. And as far as orientation, I am to understand that this area is generally below the "Bevington line" at about 300 m depth?

Thanks for helping obtain these images and all the time you put into analyzing them.
Lloyd

LLoyd, IMHO it only takes one positive identification to secure certainty as to the demise of NR16020. The Ignition Switch, in my estimation, is one of many. Experts agree that there is a debris field here where the ROV cruised in 2010. And the location can be ascertained as that of Site #1 from the 2012 expedition because many objects are common to both HD videos, even though the terrain had shifted slightly between the two years. The depth of this field goes from 980 to about 1005 feet. The cockpit of the airplane is at the lower depth and can be seen not only in the 2010 HD video posted by TIGHAR, but also in the 2012 Standard Definition and 2012 High Definition videos.

[Ric Gillespie]

Experts agree that there is a debris field here where the ROV cruised in 2010.

Cite your experts.

[Tim Mellon]

Experts agree that there is a debris field here where the ROV cruised in 2010.

Cite your experts.

You'll meet them in Casper.

[Tim Mellon]

The first is from the 960x540 definition video that you have posted, the second from the 1920x1080 definition video that only I (and Jeff Glickman) have had the opportunity to analyze.

As clearly documented in the excerpt from the Discovery show, you are mistaken.

I see no evidence in this clip that you were looking at 1920x1080 video. I inferred from Mark Smith that considerable computer processing was necessary (on land) before this level of definition could be viewed.

The full resolution video was examined in real time by the ROV operator and, later that night analyzed by, I count, nine people including myself.  Although the Discover clip shows only our examination of the possible wire, I can assure you that we were looking for anything else that might be remotely interesting.  We saw nothing,

In one night, I'm not surprised.

Jeff Glickman later saw nothing,

Again, not surprised.

 and I still see nothing but lumps of coral in the still from the full resolution video you posted.

My coral expert disagrees.

By the way, perhaps the reason you couldn't find the piece of wire again the next day is that it was dislodged (purposely, IMO) from its perch in the 8.55 minute video you posted (at 13:44:13, frame 15). It flew downhill and landed on the edge of the cockpit (at 13:44:27, frame 24).

[Ric Gillespie]

I've asked Mark Smith to send me the entire full-resolution 2010 Wire & Rope video.  I'll make it available to anyone who wants to see it.  I'm not sure yet what mechanism we'll use.  It depends on the size of the file.  If possible, I'll put it in our DropBox account and just open it up to free access.  I'll let everybody know as soon as we have it figured out.

I have no intention of opening another round of camel spotting but I want to make the full-res version available to those who want to see it. 

[richie conroy]

Count me in Ric plz

[Tim Mellon]

I've asked Mark Smith to send me the entire full-resolution 2010 Wire & Rope video.  I'll make it available to anyone who wants to see it.  I'm not sure yet what mechanism we'll use.  It depends on the size of the file.  If possible, I'll put it in our DropBox account and just open it up to free access.  I'll let everybody know as soon as we have it figured out.

I have no intention of opening another round of camel spotting but I want to make the full-res version available to those who want to see it.

Thank you, Ric.

May I respectfully recommend VLC media player as a platform by which to view these videos. Speed can be controlled by clicking:

            Playback>Speed>Slower

This allows one of six speeds, the slowest of which requires selecting as above sequentially five times (about 2 frames per second).  Slower computers will not be able to keep up in real time. My hp ENVY dv7 is sufficiently fast.

Each minute of video requires a gigabyte of storage, so you may have to offload parts to a stick when not in use.

[Monty Fowler]

Experts agree that there is a debris field here where the ROV cruised in 2010.

Cite your experts.

You'll meet them in Casper.

Mr. Mellon,
I, personally, think that TIGHAR is showing extreme generosity and forebearance in allowing you to continue to post on this forum, considering that you are suing the entity an amount of money that it cannot afford and does not have. Comments with a tone like, "You'll meet them in Casper" does nothing to advance your case, in my opinion. Others may disagree.

LTM, who feels an urge to visit relatives in Casper,
Monty Fowler, TIGHAR No. 2189 CER

[Rob Seasock]

Well said Monty, I agree.

[Nancy Marilyn Gould]

Monty:
I was thinking the same thing. Thanks for expressing my thoughts exactly!

[Ric Gillespie]

Here's a classic example of how coral can fool you.  A Forum member sent me a private message pointing out another "man-made" object in the Cook Photo (He did not copy the photo.  He told me what he saw and where to look.)  In the full photo (white arrow) it looks like a round or semicircular object with a hole in the middle.  When you get up close you can see that it's just a rock with a clump of marine growth on it.

[Dan Swift]

Ric, you asked:  Why?  Do you think you see something in a different part of the photo?

Since I can not download and repost the picture, yes I do, at about 100 degrees near the edge of the photo (in the 'brighter' area') I find those circular objects most interesting.  And what "appears" to be a cable, or something with connectors on the end, just above them.  Especially those connector looking objects. 

[Ric Gillespie]

Ric, you asked:  Why?  Do you think you see something in a different part of the photo?

Since I can not download and repost the picture, yes I do, at about 100 degrees near the edge of the photo (in the 'brighter' area') I find those circular objects most interesting.  And what "appears" to be a cable, or something with connectors on the end, just above them.  Especially those connector looking objects.

I think I see what you're looking at.  There are two circular objects and what might be something linear in the lower right corner of this detail from the photo but I don't see anything that looks definitely man-made.  As I've often said, the coral presents an incredible variety of shapes for the human mind to turn into whatever we want them to be.

[Dan Swift]

Yes, now that you've given me a closer and clearer look, I don't see it either.