Wire & Rope entire.mov

Started by Martin X. Moleski, SJ, November 02, 2012, 04:28:27 PM

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Tom Swearengen

Anyone here today, or did we take a day off?
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Dave McDaniel

I guess it's just the two of us Tom. Are we missing something important?

LTM,
Dave

Tom Swearengen

yeah----no one posted anything today!
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Tim Mellon

Is the squiggly material what could have been inside the strut cylinder to provide the cushioning? Today it would be oil and nitrogen. :).
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Tom Swearengen

Thats a good question, and we all discussed that some time ago. Who knows what it would look like after 75 years under water. Some thought is was congelled strut oil. It actually looks like it may be coming from either the strut charge port, or the weld at the bottom of the strut. That would make my brake hose theory null and void. Not going to know for sure until we find them again, and raise them, if that is even possible.
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Ric Gillespie

Quote from: Tim Mellon on November 16, 2012, 05:33:25 AM
Is the squiggly material what could have been inside the strut cylinder to provide the cushioning? Today it would be oil and nitrogen. :).

It was nitrogen and oil then.  Earhart had a bottle of nitrogen with her. It's in the stack of stuff in front of the cabin door in the photo taken in Darwin.

Tom Swearengen

Well guys, what has intrigued me about this from the start, is that we only see this 'thing' around the target, that 'appears' to be a strut. I havent seen it anywhere else, on any picture, or video. I wasnt questioning Ric about the packing material theory, because, we really dont know what it is. And, wont know unless we go find it, raise it, or at least touch it and see what consistency it has. Finding it would be a task in itself, since we didnt have a location on the 2010 video.
Maybe there is a way to do that.
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Jeff Victor Hayden

Let's not forget the significance of the black squiggly thing, whatever it is. It's not so much about the black squiggly thing or, what it's trapped under but, the fact that it stood out like a sore thumb in the 2010 ROV footage. Where we were once all concentrating on the 'wire & rope' in the footage, because of the black squiggly thing everything in the footage was scrutinised and more 'anomalies' became apparent.
Points to note:
Scale is an issue
Gardner island was a busy place
It's a hostile environment down there
Time has taken it's toll


This must be the place

Tom Swearengen

JVH---even as blind as I am, the black squiggley was apparent. Whatever it was, or is, or will be when they raise it.
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Chris Johnson

I don't realy do cloud camels or coral pigs but my poor attempt at marking around the 'squiggle' looks man made to me :)

Tom Swearengen

Thats It Chris. Look around and see if you see this anywhere else in the videos. I didnt, but I'm a casual observer. Just made sense to me that they were related somehow. Maybe it is a lifeform of Nikumaroro. Maybe is is cylinder packing material. But whatever it is or isnt, it shows up pretty well in the videos.
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Chris Johnson

Aghhhhh....i'm being dragged to the dark (squiggly) side.  It looks like it comes out of a hole in a tube to me with at least 2 'flanges', a bit like the effect in cartoons when bugs bunny puts his finger in a shotgun muzzle and the dupe pulls the trigger.

Tom Swearengen

in that case, congelled oil may be the answer. So----whats the cylinder?
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richie conroy

Hi All

Thought i would post some images of squiggle from different angle's

Thank's Richie
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