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 on: July 23, 2019, 10:49:40 PM 
Started by Randy Conrad - Last post by Randy Conrad
In most case scenarios today at most airlines and with most big aircrafts...we have two control I right? In regards to the Lockheed Electra it too has two sets of controls (steering control). My question of the day centers around what side of the cockpit was Amelia flying from when she left Lae, New Guinea? I guess I'm curious because after seeing several videos of her sitting in the seat on the right side of the plane, it makes me wonder does it matter what side of the plane she flies from? Again, I'm not an expert on planes or how they are piloted. So please give me some insight into this. If Fred was doing all the navigating, I'm assuming he wasnt flying! Also, food for thought...if Amelia, was flying on the line like she said she was and she was sitting in the left hand seat...most of us would say that she was able to see pretty much of everything...with a panoramic view. Assuming, she was piloting from the right side of the plane...she would be panning left...and most likely wouldnt see much! Anyway, curious to know what you guys might have to say on this matter...thanks

 on: July 21, 2019, 07:40:40 AM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Ric Gillespie
The search has concluded. Nothing was found.

 on: July 19, 2019, 09:02:10 AM 
Started by Randy Conrad - Last post by Jeff Lange
Thanks Bill. I was thinking it was probably Miami, but was too lazy to track it down. ;)

 on: July 19, 2019, 07:51:17 AM 
Started by Randy Conrad - Last post by Bill Mangus
It's the take off at Miami.  You get a quick look at the patch over the missing lavatory window as the Electra flashes by.

 on: July 18, 2019, 02:41:40 PM 
Started by Randy Conrad - Last post by Jeff Lange
Decent documentary. I didn't see any "new" footage. The take off they show at 22:40 as they speak about Lae, is NOT Lae, as it had no paved runways. Ric could probably tell us where that was shot.

 on: July 16, 2019, 08:55:14 AM 
Started by Ric Gillespie - Last post by Ric Gillespie
Former TIGHAR board member Russ Matthews' "Air Sea Heritage Foundation" is sponsoring a search for the wreckage of the PanAm Sikorsky S-42B Samoan Clipper that caught fire and crashed 12 miles off Tutuila, American Samoa in 1938 killing Captain Ed Musick and his six man crew.
The search is being conducted by E/V Nautilus, owned by Bob Ballard's Ocean Exploration Trust.  Aviation Underwater Archaeologist Megan Lickliter-Mundon PhD is leading the science team.  Megan has been an instructor on TIGHAR field schools served on TIGHAR's 2010 and 2012 expeditions.  TIGHAR member Lonnie Schorer did historical research for the project and is also abroad Nautilus. Ballard is not aboard.

You can follow the search live via "telepresence" at

 on: July 16, 2019, 12:00:39 AM 
Started by Randy Conrad - Last post by Randy Conrad
Ran across this awesome documentary of Linda Finch and her restoration of the Lockheed Electra and re-enacting Amelia's Around the World Flight. In this documentary it shows part of the Lae takeoff that I've never seen before. For those of you who watch this correct me on this if this isnt something new. I was also amazed by the cockpit filming of Amelia on the start of her journey. Overall, it was an awesome piece of filming!

 on: June 25, 2019, 04:07:45 PM 
Started by Kevin Weeks - Last post by Kevin Weeks
As I said I would be surprised if you hadnt checked this! I remember you making this trip as I had planned to attend but I had other commitments unfortunately.

The link I attached earlier does show some good information on rivet sizing and repairs for different t skin thickness. I wonder if the specific section could have been the repair from the clipped guy wire that required the plane to be repaired for so long. That would be the only reason for the irregular river placement on a aircraft skin.

Thoughts... not worth much without that velum print to slide over every aircraft that went through canton!

 on: June 25, 2019, 03:15:11 PM 
Started by Kevin Weeks - Last post by Ric Gillespie
On July 16, 2017 I inspected the portion the DC-3/C-47 wing section at the New England Air Museum alleged to resemble Artifact 2-2-V-1.  At that time the wing section was out behind the museum, stored outdoors with various other bits and pieces of aircraft.  There was no way to check the thickness of the skin but, although there were some general similarities in rivet pattern, the rivet type, rivet size, rivet pitch, and spacing between rivet lines did not match the artifact. Not even close. TIGHAR videographer Mark Smith recorded the investigation.

 on: June 25, 2019, 02:59:23 PM 
Started by Kevin Weeks - Last post by Kevin Weeks
of course after posting this I did find a very hard to read structural repair manual for a dc-3/c-47.... it's looking like the wing panels are possible too thin in most areas, so we are going from one extreme to the other?? the inner front edge of the wing appears to be the only skin that is .045 thick...

it calls out ad6 rivets which are 3/16 brazier head. great read in general for skin repair and rivet patterns.

just looked at the 2-2-v-1 article again to refresh my memory... seems I was mistaken on the thickness. thickness is .032 and the rivets were 3/32 and 5/32... hmmmm

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