Okay! Guys!!! I was in the very same room as Tom and Irv! I too saw the Bevington photo, but with better clarity! As a matter of fact we saw the new version and then took it too a new level by having Irv take a picture of it with his high-powered zoom. Guess what!!! The mud flap was definately crystal clear! We saw what we saw! As with Jeff's presentation on the landing gear, there is no doubt that this is what it is! So my question is...and I have to agree with Ed...Yeah, its possible that the landing gear did break off, and yes maybe a wing along with a landing gear also...They can float, assuming that the tire wasnt that heavy. I believe that the Electra is there. Now considering what we find with the new data being analyzed. It may have deterioated over the years, and maybe, it went over the edge, and maybe over time large coral boulders buried parts and pieces of her! What I'm interested in asking is how much of the island did the Bevington party search, and wouldn't you see a tire sticking out on the reef's edge if you just came from there. I mean cmon...If we see it in this photograph, someone should have seen it up and close personally. Did they have a log or journal about any findings? Also, we have a photograph, we have eyewitness accounts from villagers, we have a jar, airplane skin, cosmetics, and alot more. She is here guys!!! But where? Also, and this is geared to Ric if he is reading this...Is there any spot on the island that the islanders used for refuse or a pit for dumping metals, and etc. Is it possible that the Electra was buried by the islanders? Anyway, I know alot of you express the same frustration as I do, but I'm not giving up on this search and I hope you don't either! Also, the couple from the conference that had been to the island and took the awesome pictures of the beach...My question to you is and help me out on this...(you told us that the beach was like a runway when the tide is low. That the surface was almost like asphalt, and very firm. Is this surface like this all the time? Does the heighth of the beach stay consistent because of its coral texture, or has it eroded over time? Reason I ask this is, overtime, matter of years, artifacts can become lodged in crevices, holes, and you name it. The tide goes in and out, and eventually takes sand with it or brings it in and leaves it there. Kinda of like archeology or paleontology. What I'm curious to know is...how many sub layers of the beach are there, and is it possible, that pieces of the Electra are hidden below the surface? Now I know Ric has done several metal detectors searches, but does the coral interefere with such searches? Questions to answer!!!! Love to hear your feedback!!!!