I'm getting up from my armchair now to beat a dead horse. It occurred to me that the news of the Norwich City would have been a prominent news story in those days, at least in the Pacific area. Unless it was relegated to the back pages of the Sydney Gazette under "Shipping News". Plus there was a dramatice rescue. I can understand a teenager in Florida would not have heard of it, but isn't there a good chance that a knowledgeable Pacific navigator like Fred would have? As a glaring example of navigation gone very wrong? Isn't it possible that Fred knew the name of the wreck w/o even seeing the painted name? That he surmised they were on Gardner? Maybe they sent messages to that effect, but nobody heard them. What puzzles me is that they made no attempt to describe their location on any received message. Or did they? Was the whole US Navy unaware of the shipwreck or just the pilots? Were there numerous large shipwrecks on many island groups back then? I am guessing there was not. Yes, I know, most anything COULD have happened and we can't read Fred's mind now. Whether he knew or not, it was no help,