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Andreas Badertscher

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Hi

Came across this and find it a bit curious... bur interesting.

http://www.viewzone2.com/remoteviewing.html

What happened to the mentioned expedition starting May 18? It's not the TIGHAR expedition I guess?

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Martin X. Moleski, SJ

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Re: "650 feet deep, 1300 to 1400 feet off outside reef..."
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2010, 08:55:58 AM »

Came across this and find it a bit curious... but interesting.

http://www.viewzone2.com/remoteviewing.html

"Remote viewing" is done with ESP.

It's not TIGHAR's preferred method of exploring Niku.

To do so would violate our vow against using our powers of ESP when dealing with mere mortals.   :D
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Tom Swearengen

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Re: "650 feet deep, 1300 to 1400 feet off outside reef..."
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2010, 02:37:49 PM »

Maybe we can get some our pilot friends on the forum to tell us what they would look for to ditch an aircraft on an island. ESP, tractor beams from the Starship Enterprise, or just landing on a long beach near a reef, I think that we all would like some answers about the Electra. Tighars expeditions are a means to and end. Yes, you have to have a starting point to begin looking, and the shipwreck is a good point. But, is it the best place to land an aircraft? Perhaps some of our pilots can answer that question, and we can find the electra.
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Alan Williams

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Re: "650 feet deep, 1300 to 1400 feet off outside reef..."
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2010, 02:45:29 PM »

I'm certainly still a newbie and not a pilot but from my reading on the TIGHAR website I'd say the northwest reef flat being the likely landing spot is a hypothesis that has withstood two decades of hammering, theorizing, investigating, location of found likely pieces of plane, and historical eye-witness accounts. As one of the TIGHAR pages described, "At low tide, from the air the northwest reef flat could look almost like an empty parking lot."

I guess the one possibility I still hold open is that the empty, water logged plane floated out to sea and then either sank well away or came back in over the reef in such a way as to be almost completely obliterated.
« Last Edit: August 10, 2010, 02:47:31 PM by Alan Williams »
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Martin X. Moleski, SJ

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Re: "650 feet deep, 1300 to 1400 feet off outside reef..."
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2010, 05:49:17 PM »

Ooh, this is very interesting! Even though it may or may not be where the Electra is rested, but has TIGHAR tried to look for the plane on that part of the island?

"All indications point to the aircraft having been landed on a particular strip of smooth coral reef at the island’s western end. Our divers have searched the area down to 100 feet on previous expeditions, but the reef slope is extremely steep and any wreckage is likely to be at least 250, and perhaps as much as 1,000 feet, down. A sidescan sonar sweep around the perimeter of the island was done by Oceaneering International as part of TIGHAR’s 1991 [[Niku II]] expedition, but the sonar “fish” struck an underwater obstruction and was lost before the western end of the atoll was surveyed" (http://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/NikuVI/Niku6plan.html).
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Martin X. Moleski, SJ

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Re: "650 feet deep, 1300 to 1400 feet off outside reef..."
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2010, 05:51:34 PM »

Maybe we can get some our pilot friends on the forum to tell us what they would look for to ditch an aircraft on an island ...

See "Landing on the Reef?"
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Martin X. Moleski, SJ

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Re: "650 feet deep, 1300 to 1400 feet off outside reef..."
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2010, 04:14:33 PM »

The "Landing on the reef" page was interesting! Seems possible. Within the last photo on that page, am I the only one that sees a flat object right by the dark area? Anyone know what that could be?

Not me.  I would guess (without any corroborating evidence) that Jeff Glickman of Phototek has looked at the image and not been able to identify anything definitive in it.
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Ashley Such

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Re: "650 feet deep, 1300 to 1400 feet off outside reef..."
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2010, 04:23:49 PM »

Not me.  I would guess (without any corroborating evidence) that Jeff Glickman of Phototek has looked at the image and not been able to identify anything definitive in it.

Huh. To me, it looks like it may be a raft or a... parachute? But, I think AE sent the parachutes back before her over-water crossing.....
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Martin X. Moleski, SJ

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Re: "650 feet deep, 1300 to 1400 feet off outside reef..."
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2010, 04:51:45 PM »

... I think AE sent the parachutes back before her over-water crossing...

It seems to be the other way around.
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Ashley Such

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Re: "650 feet deep, 1300 to 1400 feet off outside reef..."
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2010, 08:27:15 PM »

It seems to be the other way around.

Ah, okay. So, maybe that's what I'm seeing in the picture... Although, how would parachutes be useful on an island? (Somebody fill me in on parachute usages on a Pacific island xD).
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Kevin Weeks

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Re: "650 feet deep, 1300 to 1400 feet off outside reef..."
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2010, 06:45:34 AM »

parachutes would actually be extremely useful on a pacific island. HUGE rainwater catch, shelter, hammock, rope ad infinitum!
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