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Martin X. Moleski, SJ

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Re: Can you add to the list of sextant numbers?
« Reply #405 on: April 18, 2017, 06:05:38 PM »

Seller of this first sextant says the following

"Hi. Yes, the number is 6028 and the box says 3850. There are no numbers etched on the arc or on the box. It appears that a label may have been removed from the inner lid, but it is no longer with the set. Thanks for your interest."


Couple of Brandis popped up on eBay today.

First looks like Serial 6028 in Box 3850

http://www.ebay.com/itm/122449968517?ul_noapp=true

From the photos, I can't see any USNO number etched on the arc.  I'll ask the seller if there is one.

Interesting that the serial number is in its own little polished "bubble".  I would take that, along with the high serial number, and no USNO number to mean that this unit is a later manufactured instrument compared to most of the sextants we've seen, and probably was never in the Navy inventory.

Andrew


Andrew, do you mean Brandis 6028?  I can't tell whether the 3850 is from Brandis or N.O.  Offhand, it sounds like two Brandis numbers to me, with no N.O. intervention in the case.
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Andrew M McKenna

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Re: Can you add to the list of sextant numbers?
« Reply #406 on: April 19, 2017, 01:09:12 PM »

Marty asks (I had to get my magnifying glass out to read the teeny tiny print !)

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Andrew, do you mean Brandis 6028?  I can't tell whether the 3850 is from Brandis or N.O.  Offhand, it sounds like two Brandis numbers to me, with no N.O. intervention in the case.
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Yes, the first is Brandis 6028, found on the left end of the arc, inside box #3850, which I take to be also a Brandis number as it is stenciled onto the box as other Brandis numbers are.

Apparently there is no USNO number for this instrument.

Andrew
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Andrew M McKenna

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Re: Can you add to the list of sextant numbers?
« Reply #407 on: April 19, 2017, 01:22:17 PM »

Seller of the second sextant has the following to say

"Hi.
There are no numbers at the left end of the arc. All numbers are shown in images, some of which are new. The number on the box is 5756."

Checking the posting again,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/332184487778?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

there are some new photos of the USNO number on the arc, and the calibration stickers from 1935 and 1937.  The numbers on the stickers and the instrument of course do not match, so bear with me.

The sextant
Serial unknown
USNO # 1142

The Box
5756 stenciled (Brandis)

The calibration sticker
USNO 1114
Brandis 5756

So, the box matches the sticker and originally held Brandis 5756, USNO 1114

Instrument in the box is Brandis ????, USNO 1142.

I've asked the seller to please eyeball the instrument again for the serial number at the end of the arc or elsewhere.

Andrew


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Martin X. Moleski, SJ

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Re: Can you add to the list of sextant numbers?
« Reply #408 on: April 19, 2017, 02:05:39 PM »

Marty asks (I had to get my magnifying glass out to read the teeny tiny print !)


Sorry about that!


There is some bug (or feature) in Chrome that does not play well with the Forum software.   :(

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Martin X. Moleski, SJ

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Re: Can you add to the list of sextant numbers?
« Reply #409 on: April 19, 2017, 02:14:31 PM »

So, the box matches the sticker and originally held Brandis 5756, USNO 1114


OK.  I've put Brandis 5756 NO 1114 into the table.
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Jerry Germann

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Re: Can you add to the list of sextant numbers?
« Reply #410 on: April 19, 2017, 10:58:17 PM »

Has anyone been able to search through this collection; http://rs5.loc.gov/service/mss/eadxmlmss/eadpdfmss/2013/ms013013.pdf
Though born in a foreign land, he immigrated to the U.S. and started a navigational school in California. I believe it was he who was shown the box found on Gardner and was asked for his opinion concerning it.  Mr Gatty may have been familiar with Brandis boxes, and the sextants within, having resided in the U.S. for some time before that event. It would be interesting to see if there is any reference to the Gardner box in his papers. I wish I were closer to the collection.
Box 22 has some photographs , but I suppose the chance that the Gardner box would be included in one would be small.
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Re: Can you add to the list of sextant numbers?
« Reply #411 on: April 20, 2017, 09:36:38 AM »

Seller of the second sextant has the following to say

"Hi.
There are no numbers at the left end of the arc. All numbers are shown in images, some of which are new. The number on the box is 5756."

Checking the posting again,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/332184487778?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

there are some new photos of the USNO number on the arc, and the calibration stickers from 1935 and 1937.  The numbers on the stickers and the instrument of course do not match, so bear with me.

The sextant
Serial unknown
USNO # 1142

The Box
5756 stenciled (Brandis)

The calibration sticker
USNO 1114
Brandis 5756

So, the box matches the sticker and originally held Brandis 5756, USNO 1114

Instrument in the box is Brandis ????, USNO 1142.

I've asked the seller to please eyeball the instrument again for the serial number at the end of the arc or elsewhere.

Andrew

Seller of this sextant sent me the following:

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Great news! Not having ever held one of these before, I was holding it upside down, so there were no numbers on the "left" end. Having righted the world, and removing a bit of smutz, I find 5981 in tiny numbers in the silver band. Thank you for sticking with me on this!

Kimberly
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So this instrument is
Brandis 5981
Navy 1142

in Box originally for
Brandis 5756
Navy 1114

It is interesting that these relatively high Brandis numbers have relatively low Navy numbers.  Sure would love to find the USNO calibration archives....

Andrew
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Arthur Rypinski

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Re: Can you add to the list of sextant numbers?
« Reply #412 on: Today at 05:44:35 AM »

Re:  Gatty papers

Harold Gatty has many different connections with the Earhart saga.  I had no idea that his papers even existed, much less that they are in the Library of Congress in Washington.  Gatty was an Australian, and a a famous navigator on several early long-distance flights.  He was a proselytizer for the use of celestial navigation in aviation.  Along with Weems, he worked on several inventions to make it more practical.  He was hired by Pan Am, circa 1935, to organize their air service in the South Pacific.  I don't know exactly how and when he first went to Fiji, but he was consulted on the sextant box when it turned up.  Gatty certainly lived in Fiji after World War II, where, among other activities, he started an airline.  He died in 1957.   
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