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 on: January 05, 2019, 03:15:55 PM 
Started by John Klier - Last post by Martin X. Moleski, SJ
I see the yellow box drawn with hi-liter,

OK.  That was the clue I needed.  I was looking for a different kind of yellow box.

My monitor must not be calibrated correctly.

Or my mind.

Now I see it!

 12 
 on: January 05, 2019, 02:45:58 PM 
Started by John Klier - Last post by Leon R White
Thank you.

 13 
 on: January 05, 2019, 12:35:42 PM 
Started by John Klier - Last post by Ric Gillespie
I see the yellow box drawn with hi-liter, but I see nothing of interest in the box.  That area is just a short way up the beach from the landing channel.  We walked past there every day.  This is what it looks like.

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 on: January 05, 2019, 09:52:29 AM 
Started by John Klier - Last post by Martin X. Moleski, SJ
I've drawn a sophisticated yellow box around the area in question.  Please no smart remarks.

Not trying to be a smart-aleck, but I just don't see any yellow boxes in the picture at all.

 15 
 on: January 03, 2019, 09:23:02 AM 
Started by John Klier - Last post by Leon R White
highlighted area with two bush/tree items on right for reference. Note that there are shadows made from parts of what ever appear to possibly be visible perhaps. It may be necessary to have another person look at it to point out the features. I've drawn a sophisticated yellow box around the area in question.  Please no smart remarks.

 16 
 on: January 01, 2019, 09:02:32 AM 
Started by Martin X. Moleski, SJ - Last post by Ric Gillespie
Good work Matt.  I think that clears up the mystery of why some C-64s had three blade props.  There are no known photos of 44-70285 (the Miller aircraft) but all wartime photos of Norsemen, with the sole exemption of the aircraft at Wright Field, show two-bladed props.

According to Wikipedia, "In postwar production, the Canada Car and Foundry in Fort William, Ontario acquired rights to the Norseman design, producing a version known as the Norseman Mk V, a civilian version of the wartime Mk IV."

C-64 44-70534, in the National Museum of the USAF collection, has a three-bladed prop but, like all of the NMUSAF aircraft, it has been "fully restored" and "is marked as a Norseman based in Alaska late in WWII."
The aircraft is actually a post-war Norseman that served in Canada.  According to Baugher's list,
"70534 (MSN 799) Built for RCAF as A591, direct to USAAF as UC-64A/44-70534. Attached to 2152RU, Dec 20, 1948 damaged in landing accident at Goose Bay, Labrador, Canada.  Attached to 6RU, Mar 10, 1949 damaged in a taxi accident at  Goose Bay, Labrador, Canada.  By 2012 was hanging from the ceiling in the USAF Museum."

Bottom line:  We can safely assume that the Miller aircraft had a two-bladed prop.  The fisherman's recollection that the aircraft he pulled up had a three-bladed prop is one of several discrepancies between what he members seeing and Norseman 44-70285. 

Assessing the credibility of the fisherman's story is a classic exercise in evaluating an anecdotal recollection.  I'll be addressing that in detail in the next TIGHAR Tracks.


 

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 on: January 01, 2019, 05:42:09 AM 
Started by Martin X. Moleski, SJ - Last post by Matt Revington
In regard to the 3 vs 2 bladed props, this page says the US army (at Wright Field during the war) tested and found the 3 bladed props improved the performance of the Norseman

https://canavbooks.wordpress.com/category/new-release/page/3/

The stats that Marty lists from wiki in the first post in this thread that mention the 3 blade prop are for the Mark V Norseman produced after the war

 18 
 on: December 30, 2018, 07:18:49 AM 
Started by Martin X. Moleski, SJ - Last post by Ric Gillespie
Yes, Grahame did a great job locating what's left of the C-130.  We discussed it at some length when Ernie LeRoy, Mark Smith and I met him in Weymouth earlier this month.  There are still many questions to be answered about the circumstances of that loss.

Grahame and I instantly recognized that we are kindred spirits. He's now helping us with the Glenn Miller Project. 

 19 
 on: December 30, 2018, 05:30:24 AM 
Started by Martin X. Moleski, SJ - Last post by Matt Revington
Success in a very similar search for a lost American plane in the channel

https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-46624382

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 on: December 29, 2018, 08:28:15 AM 
Started by Randy Conrad - Last post by Jeff Lange
Have one! 1990s is what I recall also.

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