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Jeff Victor Hayden

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Re: NIKU VII
« Reply #210 on: July 23, 2012, 07:52:56 PM »

There seems to be a lot of unwarranted negativity regarding this expedition and that's before the KOK has even made it back. So, no smoking gun? A bit early to say that given the amount of data and footage that has to be analysed. Despite the problems with the AUV and various other bits of kit they did spend a considerable amount of time on the reef face. This ROV was a step up from the previous one, another plus point in favour of finding something interesting.
All in all a gallant effort that may yet pay off. The hard work begins now.


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Greg Daspit

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« Reply #211 on: July 23, 2012, 09:27:42 PM »

From today's report and press release.
"Due to the limitations of the technology, we were only able to see standard-definition video images during actual search operations. Now that we're examining the recorded high-definition video, we’re already seeing objects we want our forensic imaging specialist, Jeff Glickman, to look at"
That is interesting that they were only looking at standard definition during the search.
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Jeff Victor Hayden

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« Reply #212 on: July 24, 2012, 05:04:16 AM »

That sounds more promising Gregory. My guess regarding the HD and standard is that it is due to the available bandwidth during real time searching, transmitting from ROV to ship. HD is recorded straight to memory to be analysed later so no restraint on bandwidth.
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« Reply #213 on: July 24, 2012, 08:04:09 AM »

There seems to be a lot of unwarranted negativity regarding this expedition and that's before the KOK has even made it back.

You should read some of the comments on NBCnews.com's article about the search- it saddens (and confuses and angers) me that so many people can be (or choose to pretend to be) so short-sighted and ignorant.  (Big crazy long link, wouldn't paste correctly, sorry.)  Comments like: "A waste of tax-payer money;" "What's the point, she's dead, stop looking;" "That money could have been spent somewhere more useful;" "The plane probably won't even be salvageable, why look for it?"  All I can say is, where's my Tylenol...?

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Jeff Victor Hayden

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« Reply #214 on: July 24, 2012, 08:31:59 AM »

Thanks for that news Gus, we in the UK tend to miss out on the American coverage. Having read all the comments yes, there's lots of in-accuracies but, that's to be expected I guess.
The one comment that made most sense regarded the fact that there is a mountain of data and information to analyse before any conclusions can be drawn.
IMHO there is aircraft wreckage on the reef, not readily recognisable as such, yet, but what should we expect to see given the time span and, the conditions down there?
If it had been a shipwreck then I would expect to see big recognisable chunks, but an airframe? Not so sure there would be anything as clear cut as that readily visible.
All IMHO of course
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Rafael Krasnodebski

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Re: NIKU VII
« Reply #215 on: July 24, 2012, 10:59:46 AM »

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Jeff Victor Hayden

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« Reply #216 on: July 24, 2012, 11:16:49 AM »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18972529

How's this one grab ya?

More doom and gloom before anyone has had the chance to analyse the data Raf.
The glass is either half full or half empty. (depending on whose round it is next)
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Tom Swearengen

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« Reply #217 on: July 24, 2012, 11:51:31 AM »

Well unless KOK has some sort of transporter beam, it hasnt returned yet. She's still at sea. Evidence---well unless Ive been absent from class, I thought the data was being analyzed.
Gee. Sounds like the US media. Hum------Notice discovery has been quite---and they were there
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Paul John Patten

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« Reply #218 on: July 24, 2012, 11:58:09 AM »

It's fun to read the followup blogs to the network and newspaper stories. It makes me feel like an absolute genius to read how stupid some people really are. Semper fi.
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Mark Pearce

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« Reply #219 on: July 24, 2012, 12:42:45 PM »

This video [scroll to end] by CBS takes an interesting 'middle of the road' approach-

"Latest Amelia Earhart search falls short"

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57478379/latest-amelia-earhart-search-falls-short/
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richie conroy

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« Reply #220 on: July 24, 2012, 03:03:44 PM »

We are an echo of the past


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richie conroy

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« Reply #221 on: July 24, 2012, 03:31:02 PM »

Is it just me or has the 23rd of july daily report been edited ?

inset, Only until we have had thorough analysis can we say what we have found and that answer will be revealed Sunday, August 19th only on Discovery.

does that mean what i think it does  ;)
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Tom Swearengen

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« Reply #222 on: July 24, 2012, 05:44:06 PM »

Hum----maybe they did find something------I dont reall reading the part about revealing Sunday --august 19 ONLY ON DISCOVERY. That sounds like a media promo. For a show that reveals coral formations, and black tip sharks? Naa----we can see that any time. On the other hand----promo to promote something they found sounds better to me. Ok----
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Greg Daspit

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« Reply #223 on: July 24, 2012, 06:00:04 PM »

It was edited. Here is what was there this morning
"Did TIGHAR’s Niku VII expedition find the Earhart aircraft? It’s far too early to say. Big pieces of airplane wreckage were not immediately apparent, but after 75 years in Nikumaroro’s severe and unstable underwater environment, that is hardly surprising. Whatever survives is hard to find.
 We have volumes of sonar data and many hours of high-definition video to review and analyze before we will know whether we found it. Due to the limitations of the technology, we were only able to see standard-definition video images during actual search operations. Now that we're examining the recorded high-definition video, we’re already seeing objects we want our forensic imaging specialist, Jeff Glickman, to look at. We’ll also be getting expert second opinions on our best sonar targets. We should have some results by the time the Discovery Channel show airs on August 19th"
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Greg Daspit

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« Reply #224 on: July 24, 2012, 06:16:30 PM »

The comment over the link to the Daily Report:
"The new daily report is up, featuring the "official" press release. They are stuck down in reviewing video and sonar imagery and are finding interesting things."

In looking at the edited press release compared to the original that I pasted in the post above, I suspect that Discovery had something to do with changing it.
 
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