Still from ROV video

[Jeff Victor Hayden]

Gregory
When they get the kit down to the reef there will be ample opportunity to sort out Norwich City wreckage from 'other'.
Sea going vessels are constructed with a totally different set of needs taken into consideration compared to aircraft.
A ship needs to be strong enough to defeat the worst that oceans and sea's can throw at it, weight isn't an issue as can be seen with some of the super tankers and cruise ships around these days.
A plane also needs to be strong but, weight is an issue, lightweight materials and construction methods are paramount.
To summarise. If you made a plane using ship construction materials and methods it would remain on the ground. If you made a super tanker using aircraft construction materials and methods, it wouldn't make it out of the shipyard.
It will be easy to sort aircraft from ship debris. Hopefully that is exactly what they end up doing.

[richie conroy]

these any good for ye jeff

Good work Richie. I need to see the inside of nose cone with hinge assembly similar to the photos I posted but without the dufuss stood in front of it.

Jeff

it's only took 7 month's to get clear images of Amelia's Electra nose cone so here they are

[richie conroy]

Jeff

Look at the coral image

Bottom left arrow do you see the similar screw or rivets holes ? to object in Electra cockpit image

[John Balderston]

John
What happened to the image you posted? It was interesting. It looked like the same formation Richie posted but at a different angle or different lighting and it looked a little more like a tail wheel.
Can we see the two images together?

Greg, I'm putting the still image back up, but passing on what I believe this is.  I'm standing by for Niku VII team to explain what they've found.  I will offer opinions regarding interpretation of this image: 1) the configuration in the foreground is proportionate and recognizable, 2) the round object is neither a tailwheel or a pulley.  Cheers, John

[richie conroy]

this image shows the wheel object in more detail

i suspect scale wise it's shopping trolley size ?  :)

this time next week we should know either way  ;D

[C.W. Herndon]

these any good for ye jeff

Good work Richie. I need to see the inside of nose cone with hinge assembly similar to the photos I posted but without the dufuss stood in front of it.

Jeff

it's only took 7 month's to get clear images of Amelia's Electra nose cone so here they are

Great pictures Richie. I think this is the first time we have been able to see what was actually inside the nose cone. The horizonal cylinders mounted on the bulkhead appear to be part of the vacuum operated autopilot system. The rear of the autopilot mount appears to be right above the cylinders and attached to them by some type of tubing.

See picture below of the autopilot mount.

[Chris Johnson]

No that is spookerly round and dare I say almost man made!

[Malcolm McKay]

No that is spookerly round and dare I say almost man made!

So are these and not man made -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nautilus

[Chris Johnson]

No and neither are many of natures wonders, its just that appart from the piggy thats the most defined item i've seen except the 'squigle' and the rope/wire.

Role on the 11th  ;D

[Chris Johnson]

Dr M,

not that I think your for one moment suggesting that this is the shell of one of those wee beasties but once the inside has decayed you would have less of a round shape.

[Bruce Thomas]

Dr M,

not that I think your for one moment suggesting that this is the shell of one of those wee beasties but once the inside has decayed you would have less of a round shape.

Right, Chris.  I'm very sure that "not for one moment" is Malcolm suggesting that the round object in the video is a Nautilus shell.  Rather, much as I did when I made a post in this thread about Table Mountain (which rises up behind Cape Town, South Africa), I'm sure Malcolm is simply providing a good example for advising caution in the use of our imagination -- that in nature there are objects that take on many of the familiar geometric shapes, like discs and straight lines and spheres (sea urchins).  (Though I have not yet seen any coral that looks like "duckies" or "horses".  ;) )

[Chris Johnson]

I know and i'm not a "jump at the coral shadows person" but this is rounder than a round thing and i'm sure Dr M and everyone knows that i'm not suggesting the remains of a beastie.

Oink Oink  ;)

[Malcolm McKay]

Dr M,

not that I think your for one moment suggesting that this is the shell of one of those wee beasties but once the inside has decayed you would have less of a round shape.

Actually the shell is quite durable - they turn up regularly out here.

[Chris Johnson]

Dr M,

not that I think your for one moment suggesting that this is the shell of one of those wee beasties but once the inside has decayed you would have less of a round shape.

Actually the shell is quite durable - they turn up regularly out here.

In which case it would be good to see a photo example if you have one for comparisson reasons.  Off out shortly but may try and google one later.

[Jeff Victor Hayden]

Malcolm has made a good point which I pointed out earlier in the thread. Where's the flora and fauna?
I have noted half a broken clam shell, not sure how it was opened, east or west coast method ;)
But nothing else.
Maybe the ROV scared off the fish and the skeletal remains of crustaceans, who knows?