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Irvine John Donald

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Re: Could Earhart’s Transmitter Operate If Her Plane Was Afloat?
« Reply #45 on: June 16, 2011, 12:21:03 PM »

But regardless of all this "ditching" talk, the hypothesis and current evidence is that they did NOT ditch. We can't lose sight of that.
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Chris Owens

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Re: Could Earhart’s Transmitter Operate If Her Plane Was Afloat?
« Reply #46 on: June 16, 2011, 02:14:00 PM »

This article on "Recognizing and dealing with trolls" could be useful:  http://www.teamtechnology.co.uk/troll-tactics.html
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Ric Gillespie

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Re: Could Earhart’s Transmitter Operate If Her Plane Was Afloat?
« Reply #47 on: June 16, 2011, 02:18:47 PM »

This article on "Recognizing and dealing with trolls" could be useful:  http://www.teamtechnology.co.uk/troll-tactics.html

Very useful.  Thanks Chris.  I think we need to stop feeding our trolls.
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h.a.c. van asten

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Re: Could Earhart’s Transmitter Operate If Her Plane Was Afloat?
« Reply #48 on: June 16, 2011, 02:38:58 PM »

The book is of 2002 , I have my knowledge not from this source , so it is an additional one I up to now did not know of .

You have no monopoly on baseless speculation.

I am second
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Cynthia M Kennedy

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Re: Could Earhart’s Transmitter Operate If Her Plane Was Afloat?
« Reply #49 on: June 16, 2011, 05:10:49 PM »

Great article, Chris.

Cindy


This article on "Recognizing and dealing with trolls" could be useful:  http://www.teamtechnology.co.uk/troll-tactics.html
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Don Dollinger

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Re: Could Earhart’s Transmitter Operate If Her Plane Was Afloat?
« Reply #50 on: June 17, 2011, 08:10:57 AM »

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That was sort of my intended point... that the answer is, "A ditched plane will float for a while, depending upon how much damage you do during the ditching."  We have no way of knowing how much damage was done, so therefore we have no way of knowing how long "a while" is.  Attempts to introduce calculations are silly, especially when those calculations are wrong.

While channel browsing last nite I caught a segment of "Unsolved Mysteries" about the Earhart disappearance.  It honed in on the 2 theories crashed in ocean and interred on Saipan with interviews of many people including Elgin Long, etc., etc., etc.,

In one segment they said that if the Electra ditched in the ocean it could float for 5 hours.  Where in the #$%& did that computation come from?  Anyone with knowledge of the other 2 theories have any information on how these supposedly came up with that computation?

LTM,

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Ric Gillespie

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Re: Could Earhart’s Transmitter Operate If Her Plane Was Afloat?
« Reply #51 on: June 18, 2011, 06:23:27 AM »

In one segment they said that if the Electra ditched in the ocean it could float for 5 hours.  Where in the #$%& did that computation come from?

The actual calculation is 5 hours 11 minutes.  Anyone can do it using a marine sextant.
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Chris Owens

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Re: Could Earhart’s Transmitter Operate If Her Plane Was Afloat?
« Reply #52 on: June 18, 2011, 12:55:22 PM »

In one segment they said that if the Electra ditched in the ocean it could float for 5 hours.  Where in the #$%& did that computation come from?

The actual calculation is 5 hours 11 minutes.  Anyone can do it using a marine sextant.

What kind of tent is it that you're referring to there?  Sounds mighty interesting.
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Re: Could Earhart’s Transmitter Operate If Her Plane Was Afloat?
« Reply #53 on: June 18, 2011, 03:21:13 PM »

Any available document of this ?
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Ric Gillespie

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Re: Could Earhart’s Transmitter Operate If Her Plane Was Afloat?
« Reply #54 on: June 18, 2011, 07:08:22 PM »

Any available document of this ?

It's not mentioned in any of the flight manuals but it's something that any navigator would surely know about.
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Re: Could Earhart’s Transmitter Operate If Her Plane Was Afloat?
« Reply #55 on: June 19, 2011, 12:55:44 AM »

Not by sextant but by abacus : A/c made good 4 miles per gallon , @ 1912 GMT 45 gls (for "1/2 hr") remained : even closest land points Winslow Reef (210 mls) or McKean (350 mls) could not be reached otherwise than with moped consumption .
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Re: Could Earhart’s Transmitter Operate If Her Plane Was Afloat?
« Reply #56 on: June 19, 2011, 01:11:16 AM »

Possibly by accounting for 220 gals/hr taken in by the fuel tanks capacity of 1,100 in case of no further damage . As from F.A.A. files the 5 hrs endurance is hilarious : Lockheeds Electra (10 incidents @ sea in files) from normal production batches before sinking period is 10-12 minutes for no major skin damage .
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Ric Gillespie

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Re: Could Earhart’s Transmitter Operate If Her Plane Was Afloat?
« Reply #57 on: June 19, 2011, 04:34:55 AM »

As from F.A.A. files the 5 hrs endurance is hilarious : Lockheeds Electra (10 incidents @ sea in files) from normal production batches before sinking period is 10-12 minutes for no major skin damage .

You find the 5 hour "calculation" hilarious but not your own.

FAA files say 10 Electras lost at sea?  I don't think so. We know of one. Give us dates and registration numbers for the others. Cite the specific source.
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Re: Could Earhart’s Transmitter Operate If Her Plane Was Afloat?
« Reply #58 on: June 19, 2011, 08:49:11 AM »

... Anyone can do it using a marine sextant.
What kind of tent is it that you're referring to there?  Sounds mighty interesting.

It took me a whole day to get that joke.   ::)

The Master said, "He who laughs last not get joke."   :-\

Ten demerits to me for being so humorless!   :P

Maybe we should start selling "marine sextants" in the TIGHAR store.
LTM,

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Chris Johnson

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Re: Could Earhart’s Transmitter Operate If Her Plane Was Afloat?
« Reply #59 on: June 19, 2011, 01:10:48 PM »

... Anyone can do it using a marine sextant.
What kind of tent is it that you're referring to there?  Sounds mighty interesting.

It took me a whole day to get that joke.   ::)

The Master said, "He who laughs last not get joke."   :-\

Ten demerits to me for being so humorless!   :P

Maybe we should start selling "marine sextants" in the TIGHAR store.

Sometimes its best to just ignore them  ;)

Then again that could account for my failure to scale the corporite hights  >:(
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