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Ric Gillespie

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Re: Lambrecht Report - Signs of recent habitation
« Reply #90 on: August 14, 2014, 03:58:27 PM »

Do the 1938 photos brought back from New Zealand last year give any such impression of the coco palms on Gardner Island being planted systematically by the hand of man? But given Lambrecht's own words in his report, the question may be moot.

No, the groves of cocos are scattered in a random fashion.  Lambrecht thought whatever he saw was an indication that the someone might be there, as evidenced by his "circling and zooming" to get someone to come out and wave to him.
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Re: Lambrecht Report - Signs of recent habitation
« Reply #91 on: October 04, 2014, 03:32:42 PM »


Will we ever know what Lambrecht saw at Gardner? Probably not. He is dead, Fred Goerner's records and recollections are conflicting, and no other contemporary documentation has surfaced. But ... things about Amelia Earhart that no one knew about are still surfacing as we speak. Someone, somewhere, may have another written recollection of that day. They just have to realize the importance of it.
Monty Fowler


Richard Beckham, who flew as an observer from the Colorado in 1937, will turn 100 next year.
 
http://www.caroleebeckham.com/blog/aroleebeckham.com/2012/04/greef-richard-beckham-photos-in-his.html

Although Bruce Thomas points out the deck logs of the Colorado record other observers flying to Gardner Island on July 9th, Mr. Beckham maintains the logs are not correct, and that he flew with Lt. Fox over the island that day.  Part of his story reads,

"When approaching an island our planes converged in – we covered the left side – and we always went low over the islands at 100 feet. We saw a rusty ship on the reef on Gardner and trees. Fox advanced the throttle to make more noise to alert anyone that might be on the island, and could run out to the beach to be seen. We couldn’t see anyone, and we always scanned the beaches. The planes continued on to Carondelet Reef to the SE, then returned to the ship."
[The Hunt for Amelia Earhart, Douglas Westfall]

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/695251117/The-hunt-for-Amelia-Earhart.html?pg=all
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http://findingaid.lib.byu.edu/viewItem/MSS%202350/Series%2017/1891/box%20114/folder%202/box%20134/

Brigham Young University, http://sc.lib.byu.edu/
L. Tom Perry Special Collections; Veteran's History
Open for public research.

G. Richard Beckham papers

Materials contain two audio cassette tapes of the oral interview with Beckham conducted by Don Norton. Beckham gives his experiences serving in the Navy in between the two World Wars, and he was part of the search party for Amelia Earhart. Contains a copy of a map of the routes taken by the search party and a newspaper clipping regarding Beckham's involvement in the search. Dated March 24, 1997, November 8, 2009, November 11, 2009.

2 audiocassettes. -- 1 folder



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Ric Gillespie

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Re: Lambrecht Report - Signs of recent habitation
« Reply #92 on: October 06, 2014, 07:28:22 AM »


Although Bruce Thomas points out the deck logs of the Colorado record other observers flying to Gardner Island on July 9th, Mr. Beckham maintains the logs are not correct, and that he flew with Lt. Fox over the island that day.

You brought this up on July 16, 2012. Why bring it up again?  Harrasment?  Beckham's anecdotal recollection related decades after the event is contradicted by a contemporaneous official document. Case closed. Beckham could be correct but as historical investigators we have no choice about which source to believe unless there is some actual evidence that the ship's log is wrong.
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Re: Lambrecht Report - Signs of recent habitation
« Reply #93 on: October 06, 2014, 08:42:00 AM »

With all due respect to Beckham, bless him, stories that loomed large in his past may have had a way of getting into his mind a bit differently than the reality.

Who knows, but I struggle with the idea that the deck logs would have gotten that wrong without more fuss being made about the error many years before now. 

Too bad though, because what Beckham describes as a 'search' isn't anything like the island-combing 'zooming' mission I had in mind: fly around the rosey looking the beaches over for a posie... say it ain't so (I'm sure they tried as hard as they could in reality).
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Re: Lambrecht Report - Signs of recent habitation
« Reply #94 on: October 06, 2014, 09:10:49 AM »

Lambrecht said they went low over the first island - McKean - and quickly decided that was wayyyy too low, due to the clouds of birds that rose up and swirled around the strange bi-winged invaders that they had never encountered before. Subsequent overflights were made at 400 feet, as I recall, to avoid hitting one or more of the featherballs.

LTM, who tries to avoid fur and featherballs,
Monty Fowler, TIGHAR No. 2189 ECSP
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