1938 Aerial Photos

[Harry Howe, Jr.]

Ric
Great Find  Keep up the great work.  It IS down there.

Mr Campbell
Your generosity exceeds any words I could conjure up to THANK YOU.

[richie conroy]

Hi All

I have attached unedited image of reef, showing dark shadow were i mentioned earlier in thread i believe anomaly is.

[Greg Daspit]

Let's look for this Norwich City lifeboat, probably just off the beach. It was photographed by the NZ expedition and its location may give us a clue to the Norwich City shelter site. 
Rick J

The lifeboat and NC shelter would be a great thing to look for. In addition to the obvious Camp Zero and the Seven site, and looking for wreckage on the reef, beaches and lagoon. Also the Norwich City structure itself. Its condition for possible habitation and if there are any markings on it. Other points to look for are the farthest north corner where a castaway may go to get a high and wide angle to lookout from.
If some of the NZ survey photographs are near duplicates, that may actually be helpful in separating some of the wave reflections and scratches from real objects.  This is a great discovery and I am grateful for the quick response in investigating it.
Many thanks to Ted Campbell

[Ted G Campbell]

Ric,

When you next talk to Jeff re the New Zealand prints would you ask him if it is possible to overlap photos so we can get a 3D (stereoscopic) view of some of the areas on the island.  This would really be neat!

Ted Campbell

[Ricker H Jones]

There is something light colored and looking man made near the shore?  The other dark dot is dirt maybe?

In this same photo is an unusual "V" shape just offshore from surf line.  Something underwater, or surf breaking over straight objects?

[Ric Gillespie]

When you next talk to Jeff re the New Zealand prints would you ask him if it is possible to overlap photos so we can get a 3D (stereoscopic) view of some of the areas on the island.  This would really be neat!

To get a stereoscopic effect you have to overlap two photos that were taken from the same angle but from slightly different positions.  It almost always has to be done intentionally. We don't have that with these photos.  Several show the same feature - for example, the southern lagoon passage - but from various angles (looking west, looking south, looking east).

[Ric Gillespie]

I wrote to Jeff Glickman and raised the Forum's concern about shooting uncompressed TIFFs rather than NEF (aka RAW).  Turns out he misspoke. He meant to say NEF. 

I should have queried him as soon as the question was raised instead of trying to be a firewall.  It would have saved everyone a lot of unnecessary angst.  My bad.

We now return to our regularly scheduled speculations.

[Jeff Victor Hayden]

I posted this pic' a while back and, it's still my favourite mirage from this particular 1938 photograph. I like it because it resembles a beached whale, two big fins at the back of the body and, sadly just the left flipper is in place. The whale like shape is visible both in the white surf and the calmer wave break water land side of the surf.

[Jeff Palshook]

Ric, Do you happen to know the specific time period, or even the time of day, on 1 December 1938 when the Supermarine Walrus made its overflight of Gardner Island?  I've looked in the TIGHAR research documents and in Ameliapedia but could not find this specific information.  The report of the New Zealand survey expedition mentions HMS LEANDER but does not seem to have any specifics about flight(s) by its floatplane(s).  I guess the deck logs of the LEANDER would have this information, but apparently you do not have these logs.

Jeff P.

[Jeff Victor Hayden]

Sometime between 6 am 30 th Jan  and 12 noon 5th   Feb Jeff...

http://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Archives/Documents/New_Zealand_Survey_Report/generalreport.html

Might have been plenty of time for both ships complements to get off a few snap shots as well?

[Joy Diane Forster]

Hi, Ric,

Just curious (and if I missed this somewhere, forgive me), but I know that Jeff Glickman has a "day job", so has he been able to give any idea as to when he might be able to analyze these newly found photos?

Not to be too impatient, but this is really exciting along with the sonar anomaly...........

[James G. Stoveken]

July 10th and 11th, Joy.  See Ric's reply #76 in this thread.

[Dan Swift]

Am I going 'crazy' too Jeff!  Could be a whale......

[Joy Diane Forster]

July 10th and 11th, Joy.  See Ric's reply #76 in this thread.

These are the dates that Jeff will take photos of the negatives, etc.   I would like to know when he will be able to analyze the data he gets from this trip............

[Jeff Victor Hayden]

"Am I going 'crazy' too Jeff!  Could be a whale......"

I only posted that image Dan because of the way the 'whatever it turns out to be' appears both in the surf and, the calmer water. It extends from one area to the next and, you're right, it could be a whale, shadow etc... But it's the uncanny resemblance that I like most, as you yourself have noticed too.