Purdue University Event April 23

[Martin X. Moleski, SJ]

The trip to Purdue might help fundraising.

Why is that / what is the mechanism as you see it, Marty?  That's interesting.

They are going to take pictures of two pictures.

I presume the reason is that they think there might be something of interest in the pictures.

Would they ever undertake the trip if they didn't hope to find something in the pictures?

If they find something of interest in the pictures, mightn't that help sell benefactors on the worth of investing in the expedition?

I deliberately use the word "might" to indicate that I don't know what the outcome of the trip will be.

[Greg Daspit]

Looks like there are several worthy efforts involved in the Purdue trip and it is efficient for several reasons. For the record I donated funds specifically for the effort to check the fasteners since  a professional was going to be there anyway. I also donated to the 1937 fund.

[JNev]

The trip to Purdue might help fundraising.

Why is that / what is the mechanism as you see it, Marty?  That's interesting.

They are going to take pictures of two pictures.

I presume the reason is that they think there might be something of interest in the pictures.

Would they ever undertake the trip if they didn't hope to find something in the pictures?

If they find something of interest in the pictures, mightn't that help sell benefactors on the worth of investing in the expedition?

I deliberately use the word "might" to indicate that I don't know what the outcome of the trip will be.

Might be so, Marty, might be so...  :P

[Ric Gillespie]

I presume the reason is that they think there might be something of interest in the pictures.

We're hoping that the Darwin Fueling photo will either support or detract from the hypothesis that 2-2-V-1 is the Miami Patch.  Jeff Neville has made the case that it can't be the patch. The testing done by Lehigh Testing Laboratories is not supportive of the hypothesis but neither does it disprove the hypothesis.  Some have claimed that the Darwin Fueling photo proves that there were no stiffeners (lines of rivets) on the patch.  Conversely, the "oil-canning" that seems to be apparent in the photo seems to match deformation in the artifact. 

I can foresee three possible outcomes to the forensic analysis of a max-resolution copy of the Darwin Fueling photo:
1. It might support the hypothesis - in which case it could be good for fund raising.
2. It might disprove the hypothesis - in which case it could also be good for fund raising because it would demonstrate our scientific rigor.
3. It could be inconclusive - in which case it there would be no benefit to fund raising.

[Bruce Thomas]

3. It could be inconclusive - in which case it there would be no benefit to fund raising.

That reminds me of the joke about the man lying unconscious on the sidewalk being worked on by paramedics.

His hysterical wife is wailing, "Give him some chicken soup! Give him some chicken soup!"

One of the paramedics says to her calmly, "Madam, it wouldn't help."

She answers, "It wouldn't hurt!"

[Greg Daspit]

Over the past 3 years I ordered 4 copies of this box fastener image from Purdue(the one on the box under the Electra with AE and FN also in the shade). Each had different resolution and it seemed to me the images with more resolution washed out detail where the second hole might be on the fastener.  The lower resolution image at 96DPI showed the details that were not so bright better. There appears to be a second hole that shows up in the 96 DPI image in my opinion. It may be a problem with contrast or something else. I don't know the reason for the loss in detail in the darker area, but this is why I am glad Jeff Glickman and Ric are going. The very helpful staff at Purdue did not know the hypothesis when I ordered the images, so could not know exactly my interests.

I wanted to post this PDF so Jeff and Ric know what I was trying to get a better look at. Because it may mean using different methods to get better detail in different parts of the image. One method for the shiny left half of the exposed fastener and another for the right half of the fastener which might be covered in a dark stitch and ring/ button/ snap or gasket. 
Attached is a PDF to hopefully explain this better. EDITED PDF to show missing layers
I know this is a longshot so thanks again Ric and Jeff for checking it while there.

[Bob Smith]

Bruce is right! When I got home from the hospital the other day, they hadn't found my problem and I'll probably have to go back. Iwent straight to the cabinet with the chicken soup. It didn't hurt and it tasted good. Until AE, FN and/or an airplane wing with NR16020 on it show up, we need to keep chuggin' with what we have!

[JNev]

Cat food might work better.  :P

[Monty Fowler]

I'm hoping that this was worth the trip, image wise?

LTM,
Monty Fowler, TIGHAR No. 2189 ECSP

[Ric Gillespie]

A very worthwhile trip. Lots to talk about.  I'll start a new thread.