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Chatterbox => Extraneous exchanges => Topic started by: richie conroy on August 02, 2012, 05:15:35 PM

Title: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: richie conroy on August 02, 2012, 05:15:35 PM
Hi All

Just thought i would ask what fellow member's are thinking about upcoming documentary ?

And if any member's can clarify Tighar is already planning for an expedition next year ?

My take is this.

Tighar being Tighar

Have found wreckage on reef face that weren't obvious before, well until they were on there way home anyway, So no serial numbers could be searched for, If Jeff Glickman is needed to analyze image's it's safe to say, what ever the object is, is not easily identifiable.

Is there any object on Electra that can provide smoke in gun evidence  ?
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: richie conroy on August 02, 2012, 06:57:45 PM
My take is if they asked Jeff Glickman to look at something, they must think it is important.

My other thought is August 19th does not leave much time to look at and analyze the data, and then prepare a documentary. They already set a date for the show without Tighar having finished looking at the data. So I think they have to start to prepare the show early. So the documentary may just be an update of why they went, followed by a blow by blow of the trip with the last part revealing the evidence or lack of evidence, and filming that last part as late as possible.

Fair comment's Gregory  :)

I wonder if now the latest team, Have adjusted there mince pie's too coral formation's, They see what me an Jeff have been wanting them see,

And need some one of Jeff Glickman's stature to clarify it ?

Let's be honest would you take the word of a Scouser or a southerner  ;)

Me neither  :)   
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: Oskar Erich Heinrich Haberlandt on August 03, 2012, 01:54:47 AM
Hi All

Just thought i would ask what fellow member's are thinking about upcoming documentary ?

And if any member's can clarify Tighar is already planning for an expedition next year ?

My take is this.

Tighar being Tighar

Have found wreckage on reef face that weren't obvious before, well until they were on there way home anyway, So no serial numbers could be searched for, If Jeff Glickman is needed to analyze image's it's safe to say, what ever the object is, is not easily identifiable.

Is there any object on Electra that can provide smoke in gun evidence  ?

Richie,
you are still very optimistic, but I would say, this is wishfull thinking. I bet on 08-19-12 there won't be any "good news". Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: Jeff Victor Hayden on August 03, 2012, 06:52:25 AM
Depends on how we define 'good news'.
IMHO
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: Oskar Erich Heinrich Haberlandt on August 03, 2012, 07:26:39 AM
Depends on how we define 'good news'.
IMHO

Correct!  :D  I would say "good news" is a smoking gun, (engine, broken wing), really smoking! (Not any peace of metal which could be anything!) (But, what should be smoking being under water?  ;D ;D ;D)
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: Chris Johnson on August 03, 2012, 07:28:56 AM
I hope we get some really good shots of the island face and diagrams of its makeup.  Also look forward to the shots of the NC stern section and associated debris.
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: Jeff Victor Hayden on August 03, 2012, 08:41:40 AM
Depends on how we define 'good news'.
IMHO

Correct!  :D  I would say "good news" is a smoking gun, (engine, broken wing), really smoking! (Not any peace of metal which could be anything!) (But, what should be smoking being under
water?  ;D ;D ;D)


I agree Oskar, that would be the ideal situation. Not certain that identification can be made simply from imaging, a chunk of debris would be better but, no touching allowed this time, maybe next time they can Hoover it all up. Good news would be that they found something that shouldn't be there and, it was made to fly, preferably by Lockheed but, we'll see.
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: Oskar Erich Heinrich Haberlandt on August 03, 2012, 11:21:01 AM
Depends on how we define 'good news'.
IMHO

Correct!  :D  I would say "good news" is a smoking gun, (engine, broken wing), really smoking! (Not any peace of metal which could be anything!) (But, what should be smoking being under
water?  ;D ;D ;D)

Good news would be that they found something that shouldn't be there and, it was made to fly, preferably by Lockheed but, we'll see.

Well, I'm sure, there's no U2 down there!  :P
No, let's be earnest, back to topic, LOL!
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: Gus Rubio on August 03, 2012, 12:07:23 PM
My take is if they asked Jeff Glickman to look at something, they must think it is important.

Hmmm, I think of it in the opposite way- anything remotely suspicious should merit Jeff's inspection- better to have him look at something and dismiss it, than to miss out on having him find something.  IMHO of course.

Regardless, I remain convinced TIGHAR is right about the Niku Hypothesis, and more searching is required.  The DC special should be fascinating, I hope we get to see some Norwich underwater City wreckage, I'm a sucker for shipwrecks.
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: Jeff Victor Hayden on August 03, 2012, 01:07:24 PM
Well, I'm sure, there's no U2 down there!

They keep a close track of these birds oskar ;)

http://www.u2sr71patches.co.uk/a12U2loction.htm (http://www.u2sr71patches.co.uk/a12U2loction.htm)
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: Chris Johnson on August 03, 2012, 01:26:04 PM
Could be an Iranian Sub or French survey ship though  :D
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: C.W. Herndon on August 03, 2012, 01:34:17 PM
Good one Chris! ::)
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: Chris Johnson on August 03, 2012, 01:36:16 PM
One of the lesser known theories and one of my favourites from the old forum  ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: C.W. Herndon on August 03, 2012, 01:39:32 PM
I guess that's one I haven't found yet. :o
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: Chris Johnson on August 03, 2012, 03:20:21 PM
Do a search on the word "ayatollah" on the main TIGHAR site and you should find references to the most bizzare theory of them all.
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: richie conroy on August 05, 2012, 12:56:29 PM
i hope they got some good footage of bottles that were mentioned in daillies round stern of NC, so we can try narrowing down search of who could have owned freckle cream hand lotion etc 
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: Chris Johnson on August 05, 2012, 01:26:30 PM
Any UK based TIGHARS with SKY know if or when its being shown over hear.
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: Jeff Victor Hayden on August 06, 2012, 07:28:40 AM
Any UK based TIGHARS with SKY know if or when its being shown over hear.

No sign of any announcement over here yet Chris. I am cable TV but programming doesn't go that far into the future. If I hear any news I'll post it up.
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: Chris Johnson on August 06, 2012, 08:13:29 AM
Cheers Jeff,

i'm not cable but i'm sure 'll be able to watch it somehow  :D
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: Jeff Victor Hayden on August 06, 2012, 09:51:54 AM
Chris, the cable schedule runs up to the 22nd and, still no sign of anything, yet.
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: Tom Swearengen on August 06, 2012, 12:49:38 PM
Did anyone see the CNN scoll line last lite---said something like underwater aircraft wreckage could solve mystery----but it was something else and mot earhart.
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: john a delsing on August 06, 2012, 03:49:40 PM
Tom,
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: john a delsing on August 06, 2012, 04:10:14 PM
Tom,
     I think you heard about the pilot down in Florida that was flying an areostar ( twin engine ) that took off, he had medical problems, radio'd that he couldn't see, and put the plane on auto after turning it out to sea ( many years ago ). Daughter still hoping some one will find the wreck on the bottom some where.
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: Tom Swearengen on August 07, 2012, 05:21:50 AM
Yeah I saw it-----by the scroll line it lookd VERY PROMISING-----but--. Im sure for the family it was good news, but I didnt think it warranted that kind of exposure on CNN------they knew of TIGHARS adventure. The way is was worded 'sounded' like 'maybe' something was found. Some people 'assumed' it was TIGHAR----my mother for one!!
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: richie conroy on August 12, 2012, 04:20:03 PM
Not sure on the title like, Mystery Solved ?

They must have obviously found something, But will probably have to go back to clarify it as they were on way home when they found it.

And my opinion is it's in the vicinity of wire and rope  ;)
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: richie conroy on August 12, 2012, 04:27:04 PM
Just checked my FiOS TV guide
August 19th, 9pm Central time (60 min.)

Title:
"Finding Amelia Earhart: Mystery Solved"
Description:
The mystery surrounding the sudden disappearance of the aviation pioneer Amelia Earhart has lasted for over 70 years, but now, one man believes he has finally found out why she vanished over the Pacific Ocean and is on the verge of finding her.

edit: replays at 11pm central
The Discovery Channel's official listing has a question mark after "Mystery solved?"
http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-schedules/special.html?paid=1.18198.137853.0.0

Thank's for posting link Gregory, Did you click on the TV-PG link, made me laugh to think of what might of been said when they had minor hiccups  ;D
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: Tom Swearengen on August 19, 2012, 09:03:27 PM
Sunday, 11:02PM. Interesting show. great under water terrain pictures.
Title: Re: Discovery Channel 19.08.12 10:00 pm
Post by: Gus Rubio on August 19, 2012, 09:16:48 PM
Incredible underwater footage.  Certainly the "worst environment imaginable", as far as looking for something goes.  Sad to see nothing concrete was found, but the data's the thing that will take TIGHAR back.

I'm sending in another few bucks for the next search right now, let's get a thing going.

One last thought: I realize Amelia was the star of the Amelia and Fred Show, but it does bother me how everyone talks about finding "Amelia".  I know brevity is important at times, but let's not forget Fred Noonan.  He suffered and died just as Amelia did, let's not overlook him.  Personally I try to refer to the collectively as AE/FN.  Hope I'm not out of line, thanks.