TIGHAR
Amelia Earhart Search Forum => Join the search => Topic started by: richie conroy on November 01, 2011, 04:18:48 PM
-
i have added 2 attachments, i have marked them an so notice were the line comes from bend on reef on both pictures an there is definitely something there
-
how can i make pictures bigger when i add attachments
-
how can i make pictures bigger when i add attachments
People can see the bigger image by clicking on the thumbnails.
-
(http://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Archives/Research/Bulletins/58_NessieHypothesis/01Nessie.jpg)
does any one think this could cause this kind of shadow
(http://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Archives/Research/Bulletins/56_WhereIsElectra/1938.jpg)
if u notice the top picture i posted at top the object is say 20 yards in front of this ?
-
(http://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Archives/Research/Bulletins/58_NessieHypothesis/01Nessie.jpg)
does any one think this could cause this kind of shadow
(http://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Archives/Research/Bulletins/56_WhereIsElectra/1938.jpg)
if u notice the top picture i posted at top the object is say 20 yards in front of this ?
The object in the top photo (Nessie) is about 200 meters (656 feet) farther from the shipwreck than the "shadow" in the lower photo. We don't know what the "shadow" is.
-
dependent on were sun is, if its behind plane taking photo it could be the shadow off that
-
(http://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Archives/Research/Bulletins/16_ForensicImaging/1938a.png)
right i was messing in windows photo gallery were u can change colour balance get rid ov red eye etc,
i have marked with arrows
arrow 1 at top is what i hope u can confirm is writing on the back of photograph, plz check ur own image as to not think i have me messed with image k
arrow 2 is shadow
arrow 3 is what looks like shadow of a plane
arrow 4 is some sort of anomoly k
-
to me it looks like SUE but there could be more there ?
-
arrow 1 at top is what i hope u can confirm is writing on the back of photograph, plz check ur own image as to not think i have me messed with image k
There is no writing on the back of the photograph.
arrow 2 is shadow
I don't see a shadow. There's a slight depression in the reef surface in that area.
arrow 3 is what looks like shadow of a plane
The plane from which the photo was taken was a Supermarine Walrus. I don't think the sun was behind the camera.
arrow 4 is some sort of anomoly k
Not sure what you're seeing. White flecks are flaws in the photo.
-
how can i get a zoomed in image of what i mean
-
look at end of arrow
-
I see the Sue in the photo at point one! That isn't from the back of the photo, if it was it would be a bleed through and would come out euS.
As to the Third Arrow, I see what could be a wing, silvery or white. I don't see the shadow you speak of though.
-
hi rich arrow 2 points to this shadow in pic as seen from a distance am really glad u see the "sue" thing because i was starting to wonder if i was imageing it :)
(http://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Archives/Research/Bulletins/56_WhereIsElectra/1938.jpg)
-
if u look close u can see shadow inbetween arrows
-
I think the strange shapes you're seeing that seem to be letters are merely irregularities in the reef surface. The white flecks are flaws in the print, possibly from dust on the negative.
Our forensic imaging specialist, Jeff Glickman, has looked at the shadow on the reef edge and does not think it's a man-made object.
I see four anomalies in the photo that might be debris.
"A" is a dark linear shape near the shore directly opposite the bow of Norwich City. It's fairly large - maybe 30 feet long.
"B" is of similar size but as linear in shape.
"C" is smaller
We're looking at all of them through perhaps a foot or two of water. The size and position of all of three suggest that the could be deck debris from the shipwreck that has been washed overboard.
"D" is more interesting. I hadn't noticed it before. It's a black dot just about halfway between the beach and the Nessie location on the reef edge (that location is obscured by the surf in this photo). The object looks to me to be maybe three feet in diameter. I don't think it's a flaw in the photo. I think it's a thing on the reef. It is similar in general appearance to the coral blocks on the reef at the bottom of the photo but its edges seem sharper. We can be quite certain that it's not from Norwich City because it's over 1,300 feet from the ship in the wrong direction. It's apparently not Nessie moved closer to shore than in the 1937 photo because this photo was taken in 1938 and when Emily Sikuli saw Nessie in 1940 it was still where it is in the 1937 photo "out where the waves break."
I'm going to ask Jeff to have a look at it.
-
(http://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Archives/Research/Bulletins/56_WhereIsElectra/1938.jpg)
You know, I've always wondered what that "parachute/raft" like object is right by that dark object.
In case any of you are confused, I mean this (see attachment).
-
Interesting pattern, but probably not an object, rather a coincidentally parachute / ice cream cone shaped patch of surf bubbles. The human brain seems to have a capacity / need to find patterns in photos that we assign meaning to when none is really there, like faces on the moon, cloud bunnies, things on the grassy knoll, aircraft in the lagoon, and objects in the surf.
We've investigated several over the years utilizing photographic enhancement and analysis, and even going to locations identified in satellite and other photos like we did during Niku VI. In most cases, it has turned out to be nothing. Only in a few cases where the forensic imaging analysis indicated there was really something there, as in the case of the water tank at the 7 Site, have we actually found something.
Its tempting to make something out of it, but in most cases we're looking at random patterns that happen to look like something familiar to our brains.
Andrew
-
Interesting that the water catcher was a static feature on land (ok I know there was also the crusiform) but these are in the water and subject to movement such as the WOF.
But yes if you look hard enough you can see what you want.