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Amelia Earhart Search Forum => General discussion => Topic started by: Randy Conrad on July 29, 2026, 05:28:54 AM

Title: Noonan's Window Chart
Post by: Randy Conrad on July 29, 2026, 05:28:54 AM
Good Morning Tighars and Tigharettes!!! I was on Facebook yesterday and scrolled by the "Chasing Earhart" page. This is an awesome page and website. Has alot of podcasts from our very own Ric Gillepsie and other known researchers. Anyway, yesterday they posted a picture of Fred Noonan taking sights through the window. Above the window I noticed that Amelia and Fred had a chart or board with Longitude and Latitude headings. With this said...Does anyone know more about this?
Title: Re: Noonan's Window Chart
Post by: Randy Jacobson on July 29, 2026, 08:24:14 AM
Interesting...the position puts it in the Pacific nowhere close to their flight lines at the time.  On June 20, the travelers were either on their way or have arrived in Darwin, Australia.
Title: Re: Noonan's Window Chart
Post by: Denise Kelsey on July 29, 2026, 09:48:58 PM
That's because it's AI.  The Facebook post explicitly states "In the meantime, enjoy a fun AI mockup of Fred Noonan taking a sun sight one morning during the world flight." I didn't think it even really looked like him.
Title: Re: Noonan's Window Chart
Post by: Randy Jacobson on July 30, 2026, 08:36:24 AM
Of course...and who would be taking a picture of FN while they were in the air?  Duh....
Title: Re: Noonan's Window Chart
Post by: Martin X. Moleski, SJ on July 30, 2026, 12:55:11 PM
The navigator's table was only used on the first attempt at circumnavigation, which ended in disaster at Luke Field.

On the first attempt, AE had Paul Mantz as copilot, Harry Manning as the radio man, and Fred Noonan with her on the flight to Hawaii. Mantz was left there. Manning was only going to continue to Australia. Fred was signed up for the whole trip.

After the crash at Luke Field, it was only AE and FN in the plane, so there was no need for the navigator's table. The window was taken out and replaced with an aluminum patch panel in Miami.

AI either has not read the Ameliapedia or it does not trust it as a source. <sigh>
Title: Re: Noonan's Window Chart
Post by: Jeff Lange on August 01, 2026, 04:46:01 AM
"AI either has not read the Ameliapedia or it does not trust it as a source. <sigh>"

That's fair, as I don't trust AI!
Title: Re: Noonan's Window Chart
Post by: Randy Conrad on August 02, 2026, 12:39:43 PM
Sorry bout that guys! This is why I hate AI! This new technology in my eyes is very misleading and can be very dangerous when it's applied to research. There needs to be better limitations on what you can do with it and when it applies to factual evidence and research!