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Amelia Earhart Search Forum => General discussion => Topic started by: Jerry Germann on October 04, 2013, 06:31:20 PM
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Hello, I am new to this forum ,and am glad to find a site that shares the same interests in Amelia Earhart and her fate as I do. I have read numerous articles concerning her, as well as read many of the comments here on this forum. I am interested in the various theories regarding the flyers fate , and the one concerning their landing on ( niku) has peaked my interest and has me thinking about a few things , such as ; If Amelia did make a fairly safe landing on the reef, and was able to power up her engines from time to time to maintain radio power, ( possibly for a few days as it has been suggested) I was wondering why she didn't power up the plane to the shoreline /and higher land,and secure it there, Or possibly into the lagoon area, knowing the floatation character of the plane that high tides could or eventually would sweep the plane out to sea?Placed in the lagoon, It would have made the plane easy to see and provide some shelter. I was also wondering has tighar on its expeditions to the island every taken a radio like Amelia had and set up a reciever in the same area as the teenage girl in Florida had and tried to transmit messages to that area? Just thinking.....
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I was wondering why she didn't power up the plane to the shoreline /and higher land,and secure it there, Or possibly into the lagoon area, knowing the floatation character of the plane that high tides could or eventually would sweep the plane out to sea?Placed in the lagoon, It would have made the plane easy to see and provide some shelter.
Jerry, having visited Nikumaroro, and IMHO as a pilot, I think it would have been folly to attempt to reach the beach by taxing the aircraft from the reef. The intervening waters are pocked with depressions, and getting stuck in one would have possibly disabled the right engine and propeller, preventing any further radio communication. YMMV.
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Hello, Thank you for your reply, I did wonder....was she ALREADY stuck , in the very spot where the photo appears to show the sheared off landing wheel and she couldn't move the plane? In any case if it were me and I knew it was only a matter of time that the tide would soon take my only good shelter and the plane WAS able, I would have taken the chance to get it to shore / or into the lagoon when the inlet was dry at low tide.( even if I had to have fred walk a bit in front while I was slowly bringing her in). It must have been horrible for them,.... ( in the dark, very little sleep,the intense heat during the day, the unknown creatures that might be on the island, ect). ....I wonder did they spend all their time on the plane until they knew it would be swept away by the rising tide, or did they trek back and forth when the tide allowed?
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....I wonder did they spend all their time on the plane until they knew it would be swept away by the rising tide, or did they trek back and forth when the tide allowed?
Jerry - I can answer that part of your question with a high degree of certainty! Probably not.
I say probably because none of us were there. But consider - It's July. You're just a few degrees from the equator. The sun is overhead for a longgggg time. You get direct heating from the sun on the aluminum of the aircraft plus the indirect heating from the sunlight reflected off the water onto the aircraft. Think barbecue grill with the lid on.
Anything living would be pretty well cooked in short order if it stayed inside the Electra for any length of time. There were few openings for ventilation to create a cross-current of air. The aft cabin door was probably shut to keep the water out (or to try to). Fred's navigation window on the starboard side aft could have been smashed out, I suppose. In the cockpit there were the side windows, which could be slid back, and the top hatch over the pilot's seat. Even all of that combined is not a great deal of square inches of available venting space for superheated air.
LTM, who tries not to vent too much,
Monty Fowler, TIGHAR No. 2189 CER
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Hello, ...yup daytime occupation would have been a definite no,no....anyway I watched a video that Ric had made and in it he said he thought that the electra was only on the reef for 5 minutes until it was swept over the edge, guess that would explain why there aren't too many artifacts on the island , how much could one grab given a few minutes? I was under the assumption that the landing was on dry reef,and later when the tides came in, is when the plane was swept off , however if so that would have taken longer than 5 minutes to happen. In the photo taken of the ( could be landing wheel) it is understandable that it would be upside down, floating like a bobber, with the inflated tire serving as a buoy. Did one of her landing wheels break off upon landing???, possibly , in my opinion that could be one reason she couldn't try to power the plane onto higher ground. I don't know what credence tighar gives to the proported distress calls lasting for several days ( I am not sure where ric comes up with the 5 minute time period). I believe in one person's recalling the transmissons she proported hearing , that she said it sounded like earhart said she was STUCK on a reef.
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( I am not sure where ric comes up with the 5 minute time period).
Possibly 5 days on the reef, Not 5 minutes. (maybe once higher tide made it float off the reef it may take 5 minutes to sink). Read Time and Tide (http://tighar.org/Publications/TTracks/2013Vol_29/February_2013/Time_And_Tide.pdf) and note the times credible transmissions were recieved were mostly during the night and lower tide. I can think of 3 reasons. 1. Propagation may be more favorable at night. 2. It was too hot to transmit during the day. 3. Sought saftey of shore during high tide.
An of course the propeller may not operate at high tide.
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Hello again, I finally got some rest and I have to say .....OOPS! I was watching a video of Ric at 2 in the morning last night and thought he said 5 minutes, actually he said 5 nights ( boy the brain doesn't work well on little sleep) so forget all that 5 minute stuff in my previous post. Anyway , it brings me back to my previous wonderment , that being ( if she was able to power her craft to higher land why didn't she , was the landing gear broken off on the setdown? If after observing the tides coming and going in for 5 days and nights and seeing the plane surrounded with high water each time ( crossing your fingers that it won't goout to sea with the last wave ) I would think an attempt would have been made to get it to a safer local.
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Hi Jerry
Ric posted an image a while back of him and other Tighar members sitting on bank at edge of reef which is quite steep an would explain why they never tried to get plane on dry land, But for the life of me i cant find image
Maybe Ric will help us out by re posting it Cough :)
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Hi Jerry
Ric posted an image a while back of him and other Tighar members sitting on bank at edge of reef which is quite steep an would explain why they never tried to get plane on dry land, But for the life of me i cant find image
Maybe Ric will help us out by re posting it Cough :)
Richie, rather than get Ric to repost it, just click here (http://tighar.org/smf/index.php/topic,1225.msg25578.html#msg25578) to go to the original post back in the early part of summer this year.
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Hello Ritchie and Bruce......I found the picture along with other comments basically asking some of the same things as I have been,....I see what you mean about trying to power it up to the area where the picture was taken ( no go). Are the shores along the whole of the island this way? That leads to my next question , how is the inlet to the lagoon?, any chance of getting a plane in that way? I am still thinking about Amelia and Fred watching those waves coming and going day after day during high tides tugging at their precious lifeline....and IF the plane WAS able to move, agreeing with each other in the thought that ,( boy we have to limp our only hope of survival as close to the shore as possible when the tide is out. I wonder concerning the photo ( since it seems to be the tire held somewhat in place by the heavy iron attached to it), how far did it drift from where it accually separated from the plane?
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Hello Ritchie and Bruce......I found the picture along with other comments basically asking some of the same things as I have been,....I see what you mean about trying to power it up to the area where the picture was taken ( no go). Are the shores along the whole of the island this way? That leads to my next question , how is the inlet to the lagoon?, any chance of getting a plane in that way? I am still thinking about Amelia and Fred watching those waves coming and going day after day during high tides tugging at their precious lifeline....and IF the plane WAS able to move, agreeing with each other in the thought that ,( boy we have to limp our only hope of survival as close to the shore as possible when the tide is out. I wonder concerning the photo ( since it seems to be the tire held somewhat in place by the heavy iron attached to it), how far did it drift from where it accually separated from the plane?
Jerry, two articles in Ameliapedia will be of interest to you, one about the landing channel (http://tighar.org/wiki/The_landing_channel) and the other about the boat channel (http://tighar.org/wiki/The_boat_channel). And for trying to divine what Fred and Amelia woulda, coulda, shoulda done in this or that situation, the "Undecidable questions (http://tighar.org/wiki/Undecidable_questions)" entry is a good article to keep handy.
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Hello,
I think that is the fun of forum debates, the wonderment of this ,and that, and the other ... I clicked on the landing channel, however it directed me to the boat channel area , it doesn't give me any insight as to the condition of the inlet (Tatiman passage) to the lagoon from the reef during low tide periods. In your opinion is it possible to power a plane (carefully) :P from the assumed landing site and accross the reef surface and into the lagoon? It would have made it possible for Earhart to continue to transmit/ and or listen to radio broadcasts throughout the day/night instead of waiting for low tide periods. Also, I have read in other's comments on the net ,that if she were on this island why didn't she report the large shipwreck next to her downed plane in her broadcasts, giving a major clue to her whereabouts? Another tactical maneuver.
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Thank You Bruce
I did try finding it on forum but to no avail :)
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Guys and Gales,
If Nessie turns out to be real it should tell us that the landing gear on the left side of the aircraft got stuck in a grove on the tidal plane and it couldn't go any futher up the reef.
Ted Campbell
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In your opinion is it possible to power a plane (carefully) :P from the assumed landing site and accross the reef surface and into the lagoon?
Absolutely not.
It would have made it possible for Earhart to continue to transmit/ and or listen to radio broadcasts throughout the day/night instead of waiting for low tide periods.
No it wouldn't. The main passage is like a fast-flowing river whenever the tide changes and is about about ten feet deep. If the plane ever got as far as the passage the transmitter would quickly be flooded.
Also, I have read in other's comments on the net ,that if she were on this island why didn't she report the large shipwreck next to her downed plane in her broadcasts, giving a major clue to her whereabouts? Another tactical maneuver.
You mean like by saying "Ship on reef southeast of Howland" or transmitting the ship's name over and over?
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Hello Ric,
Thank you for the information regarding Titamen passage , it provided me a greater understanding of the area , I was under the impression that water coming up the reef was barely able to make it into and out of the lagoon, and the majority of the time it is a dry area one could walk over ,with the water very shallow entering the lagoon , the pictures found on the net of the area don't show the true picture ....I'm learning..... As far as the radio transmissions , yes , it puzzles numerous people as to why she wouldn't have said in at least one of her broadcasts that there was a large shipwreck nearby ,even if she didn't know the name of the ship , it would have been a huge clue to would be rescuers. I am not convinced she didn't try to do that , as several ones who reported hearing some of her transmissions say there were some words that came through weak or unintelligable.
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As far as the radio transmissions , yes , it puzzles numerous people as to why she wouldn't have said in at least one of her broadcasts that there was a large shipwreck nearby ,even if she didn't know the name of the ship , it would have been a huge clue to would be rescuers.
I think you would find answers to many of your questions on Ameliapedia.
See Ship is on a reef South of the Equator (http://tighar.org/Publications/TTracks/2005Vol_21/2103.pdf)
Also see Betty's Notebook (http://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Archives/Documents/Notebook/notebook.html) where Betty heard something that sounded like New York being said over and over again. Sometimes by both Amelia and Fred. The name of the shipwreck is Norwich City which sounds like New York City. I think they were saying Norwich City over and over again because that was a "huge clue" to where they were.
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As far as the radio transmissions , yes , it puzzles numerous people as to why she wouldn't have said in at least one of her broadcasts that there was a large shipwreck nearby ,even if she didn't know the name of the ship , it would have been a huge clue to would be rescuers. I am not convinced she didn't try to do that , as several ones who reported hearing some of her transmissions say there were some words that came through weak or unintelligable.
It was speculated in another thread Jerry that it was a possibility that FN knew of the wreck and its location, the Phoenix group of islands, from his career at sea 'Following a distinguished 22-year career at sea which included sailing around Cape Horn seven times (three times under sail), Noonan contemplated a new career direction. After learning to fly in the late 1920s, he received a "limited commercial pilot's license" in 1930, on which he listed his occupation as "aviator." In following year as a Merchant Mariner, he was awarded "license #121190, Class Master, any ocean," the qualifications of a merchant ship's captain.'
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Hello again,
Thank you for the great sites in which to really get educated on all the little details that aren't covered in ordinary everyday media. In looking at Betty's notes for the first time , I too thought right away,.... those NYs , why so many times was that repeated, and was is really Norwich City Betty was hearing? Ok, so where do we go from here? I know an expedition seems planned for this coming summer of 2014 ,and I am sure it will be number one on the list to explore the anomoly off the reef down some 600-1000 feet, however I was thinking if time and resourses were available, and I know this may sound far fetched to some , but I was wondering about the possibility of Tighar taking along a trained cadaver dog ( not to search for Amelia) as it has been assumed she wound up in Fiji, no , but to look for Fred. If Amelia had to bury him in those conditions I would suspect that he was buried very shallow. If you look on the net these dogs have been used to find 100 year old graves ( before the use of embalming fluid) which of course wasn't used in this case, and in the 33 year old Ethan Patz case....the dogs are trained on 300 year old bones....just a thought. I guess I would look in seven site with such a dog first , but if nothing turns up there , then ??? Was it possible Amelia used a marker of some kind , that has until now gone un-noticed? Also, what about the use of ground penetrating radar , some use this as a tool in their search for graves, is this an instrument that could be used to find a grave on the islands terrain? If we find Fred , we find Amelia.
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We tried ground penetrating radar in 2010 and found that it doesn't work in coral rubble. We're actively looking into the possible use of forensic dogs on a future expedition but probably not on the 2012 trip.
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... I was wondering about the possibility of Tighar taking along a trained cadaver dog ... Also, what about the use of ground penetrating radar ...
Jerry, if you'll make use of the Search facilities within the Forum, as well as for the entire tighar.org website, you'll find prior discussions about both of those topics.
For searching the Forum, I suggest that you first press on the "Search" link that is in the string of links beneath where your name appears. Key "cadaver dog" into the blank field presented to you, and peruse the Forum entries that come up.
For searching all of tighar.org, click on "Search TIGHAR" just under the TIGHAR Logo near the top of the screen, and use that mechanism. Key "ground penetrating radar" there and see what comes up, both from the Forum as well as the wider search of files on the website.
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Bruce,
Thank you, will do....If anyone is interested in what a good dog can do , type in migaloo ( as Jimmy Tyler and Matt Revington and others have already brought to the forum) and see her amazing capabilities , if there were any bones left concerning Amelia as well , bet she could find them.
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Hello again,
Bruce and others are trying to straighten me out and eventually I will get it , in my rush to help with clues I sense I am just (getting in the way) , after all these people have been working on solving this mystery for decades , I have only tuned in recently , so it is good advice to listen to the moderators and do a little bit more research on what subjects have been discussed in depth, and what hasn't been touched on very much, if at all . Anyway, I was thinking if those people with dogs want big money to go to the island , perhaps somewhere in this big wide world , one can find someone willing to do it just for the thrill of the adventure, and if he and his dog did find something worthwhile ? well think of the ramifacations.....MY DOG , found Amelia and Fred ...Big book deal and movie in the works, Big $$$$$$$$ It seems a big ado has been made over just a fingertip ( subjected to DNA analysis and such),.... find more and maybe we will get more answers. And in addition, we just may be able to give Amelia and Fred the proper burial they deserve.
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I would be so bold as to suggest that if the decision is made to take a cadaver dog, it should not be from the states but one already in the south pacific - Fiji or Samoa perhaps? or where ever the staging is for that particular trip. That way there's the possibility, however remote, of getting a dog accustomed to ocean travel and an even better chance to minimize or avoid altogether any necessary animal quarantine issues.
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Agree, let the dog and his handler do their thing apart from what the other Tighar explorers are doing ....Yes , finding the plane would be terrific , however finding Amelia and Fred would be better .....people over material things.
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Some basic issues to consider when thinking about taking forensic dogs to Niku:
1. Why? To find bones of course. What bones? The castaway bones that Gallagher didn't find and/or Fred's grave. What makes us think such bones still exist after 76+ years? Lots of birds and rats have died on that island over the years. Why isn't the island knee-deep in bird and rat bones? What happens to them? Why aren't the woods near your home littered with deer, rabbit, squirrel, mouse, bird, woodchuck, and wildebeest bones? Because critters, big and small, chew 'em up. Are there any critters on Niku that might chew up bones? Yep. Rats. Lots of 'em. Do vegetarian Polynesian Rats (Rattus exulans) chew bones? Dunno, but the bones on Niku go somewhere. So is there any reason to think the castaway bones that Gallagher didn't find are still there someplace? Not that I can think of, unless they somehow got buried. Ditto for Fred's bones.
So the dogs would be looking for bones that somehow got buried either by people or crabs. A long shot at best.
2. What risks would there be to the expedition if dogs were on the team? A dog would have to be treated like any other team member. If a team member gets a life-threatening illness or injury the expedition must be aborted to get the team member to hospital. Is a dog more likely to get sick or be injured at Niku than a human?
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Hello,
I have read about some of the exploring that Tighar did regarding bone search and it seems like in the past you were all for that. If Fred was buried by Amelia couldn't there be a chance that some of his remains would still be there? And if some of both were taken down holes by the crabs , it may be possible that the dogs could tell you which ones. I know it would be more costly and risky, as we all know , the more people going along, the more likelyhood that something is going to happen to someone. Maybe this isn't the time ( on this trip), but however this new trip turns out, whether the electra is found or not, I am thinking the next order of business would be to do the best one could to recover the people involved,( a smaller bone recovery trip, with as few people ( and dogs) as possible, so the proper thing could be done with what does remain of them. IMHO one bone fragment from Amelia or Fred would be worth more than that whole electra.
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"IMHO one bone fragment from Amelia or Fred would be worth more than that whole electra."
The entire electra would cause a media sensation worldwide. The general public would be impressed. A small bone fragment would, if DNA proven, be exciting among scientists and like minded people. The general public might accept the truth but it won't be as impressive as the electra. Either one would put my mind at ease, but the electra is more dramatic! IMO of course.
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NEWS FLASH !!!! (That's what they said way back then) EARHARTS PLANE FOUND!!!!! Ok, there we go, it is found, sure it is a nice piece of history and all , however it doesn't COMPLETE the story..... to put to rest all the theories of what happened to the People aboard it, more must be discovered. Finding the plane is only the half of it. Sure artifacts were found and YES they could have belonged to Amelia, however ;does it prove she and Fred died there? If left unfound there will always be the cannibals came and got her stories , the japanese picked her up and took her to Saipan stories, she lived a life as someone else, etc, etc,...Yes I do wholeheartedly agree with Tighar's methodology, that being :(find the haystack before you search for the needle). However if that haystack is found then please don't overlook the search for the needle, thus completing the story once and for all. They found Hitler's bunker but they didn't find him , it leaves us lacking.
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Finding conclusive proof that the flight ended at Gardner Island - whatever that proof turns out to be - will only be the beginning of sorting out the story of AE and FN's last days.
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They found Hitler's bunker but they didn't find him , it leaves us lacking.
NEWS FLASH, Jerry!!!!
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That story is also open to debate , it is full of holes ,...as there were many hitler doubles found, and certainly a country on the verge of atomic bomb capability had the technology to produce a realistic hitler like body,one that was badly burned at that..... ( lets not get crazy and turn this into the Hitler debate Forum), ... maybe I did make a bad comparison in my last statement , however it doesn't change the fact that for me , NO bodies , NO closure.
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Hello,
I was wondering if anyone agrees with me that finding them would be crucial to completing the story? And, Hey, I'm sorry :'( about the hitler reference,.... when I was young my mother used to buy a lot of those over the counter magazines..... ( you know the ones)...and maybe I was influenced by them somewhat, what can I say, it's hard to distinguish fact from fiction when subjected to a ton of media's propaganda.
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Hi All
Ric if next years expedition does produce smoking gun evidence of the electra down in the depth's of the waters of reef, Would that mean apart from the archaeology side of site of electra, Tighar's work will be finished on the island as it's the historic find and possible recovery of the electra is what Tighar are about ? Or would the fact you's have been searching the island since 1987 drive you's on to find what evidence is left of Amelia Fred ?
Thanks Richie
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I disagree Richie, If he finds the smoking gun as you say and evidence of an electra down in the depth's their work is just begun. Then you would know you have the right place, then you would have to put the pieces to the puzzle together as to what happened to them after they landed. If they crashed in the water and sank and you found the plane, easy, they died. If you found the wreckage in the Jungle someplace, again easy, they crashed and died. But if Tighar is right that means they survived. For how long? What did they eat? Was she alive to see the plane's pass over and not come back? What must that have been like?
Just sayin'
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I disagree Richie, If he finds the smoking gun as you say and evidence of an electra down in the depth's their work is just begun.
Exactly.
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Hello,
If the Electra is found, I assume there will be a recovery expedition soon afterward to gather any bits,and pieces,and parts that are recoverable. Where do you plan for these parts to wind up? I haven't done my research on this but is there an earhart museum somewhere?
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If the Electra is found, I assume there will be a recovery expedition soon afterward to gather any bits,and pieces,and parts that are recoverable. Where do you plan for these parts to wind up? I haven't done my research on this but is there an earhart museum somewhere?
Any artifacts related to Earhart found on or near Nikumaroro belong to the Republic of Kiribati and their disposition is up to Kiribati. That said, TIGHAR has an excellent relationship with the government of Kiribati and our recommendation would be that the artifacts be carefully conserved and eventually displayed in a traveling exhibit. After a suitable tour, the exhibit would find a permanent home at the Smithsonian National Air & Space Museum.
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After a suitable tour, the exhibit would find a permanent home at the Smithsonian National Air & Space Museum.
That would be the best thing to do.
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Thanks Ric, .....now that is what I call a tactical maneuver, ....hopefully that is the way it will stay , for as we know other articles from valued historic sites have been auctioned off to private collectors, even though they were supposed to be well protected. I know this is way down the road , but ,... if there were to be some remains from Fred and Amelia recovered, what happens to these?
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if there were to be some remains from Fred and Amelia recovered, what happens to these?
Return to next of kin.
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Meaning no disrespect here.... But in a most bizarre and nearly unfathomable bit of irony, isn't Tim Mellon a descendant of Amelia Earhart?
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I disagree Richie, If he finds the smoking gun as you say and evidence of an electra down in the depth's their work is just begun. Then you would know you have the right place, then you would have to put the pieces to the puzzle together as to what happened to them after they landed. If they crashed in the water and sank and you found the plane, easy, they died. If you found the wreckage in the Jungle someplace, again easy, they crashed and died. But if Tighar is right that means they survived. For how long? What did they eat? Was she alive to see the plane's pass over and not come back? What must that have been like?
Just sayin'
Hi Rich
For me personally i think Tighar have done a fine job in putting that puzzle together already and the Electra would be the icing on the cake.
I know their would still be work to be done under and above water, My comment on this was just an off the cuff comment, as i was sitting in van stuck in traffic, And was thinking results pending of analysis of 1938 photo's if area's of interest are found and we found a treasure trove tucked away in a bush like Fred's Sextant Amelia's suitcase with documents in etc, This all taking place on next expedition that is ;D
Richie
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Meaning no disrespect here.... But in a most bizarre and nearly unfathomable bit of irony, isn't Tim Mellon a descendant of Amelia Earhart?
He may be related in a collateral line.
So far as I know, AE didn't have any children, hence would have no "descendants" in the strict sense.
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Meaning no disrespect here.... But in a most bizarre and nearly unfathomable bit of irony, isn't Tim Mellon a descendant of Amelia Earhart?
No, I am no relation.
However, she did found, with two other partners, Boston Maine Airways, a joint venture between Boston and Maine Railroad and Mane Central Railway, both of which are now subsidiaries of Pan American Railways, my company. Boston Maine Airways became Northeast Airlines (the Yellow Bird), which was eventually absorbed into Delta Airlines.
When we purchased PanAm (airlines) out of bankruptcy in 1998, we resuscitated Boston Maine Airways as a subsidiary that was not burdened with union contracts. It flew until 2007, but economics dictated terminating operations.
As I have explained elsewhere, Boston and Maine Railroad owned a large freight yard in Cambridge, Massachusetts. It has been converted into an urban development ("Northpoint") (http://northpointcambridge.com/index.html), our joint venture partners being Canyon, which is owned in part by Magic Johnson. We suggested naming two of the new streets in the development "Earhart Street" (after Amelia) and "Child Street" (after Julia Childs, the cook). Both names were accepted by the City of Cambridge.
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Meaning no disrespect here.... But in a most bizarre and nearly unfathomable bit of irony, isn't Tim Mellon a descendant of Amelia Earhart?
Not in any way that I am aware of. Mellon bought an airline with which she was once associated. Maybe that's what you're thinking of.
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Hi again,
I read an article stating that the Discovery channel will be along on this next years expedition to film events , is this the first time you have had a major network do this? Also, again on the subject of bones ( can't get bones out of my mind) ...I read here and other places that you did a little investigating on a grave site that turned out to be that of an infant(assumed part of the settlement), and that you noted it was lined with coral and the coffin was that of wood. Were the bones examined? and if so what condition were they in? At the least they would be now 50+ years old, earharts and noonen's would only be a couple decades older. Did this give a clue to Tighar as to how the enviroment / and soil minerals and salts deteriorate bones on that island? I live in an area where there are examples of remains some purported to be millions of years old!!!!Triceritops and Tyranosaurus all around me , so you see bones laying out or under the elements only 76+ years don't really seem all that old to me.
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Hi Jerry
Discovery have been a major sponsor of Tighar for a few years, Has well as Photo Tech and FedEx
As for information on Tighar's work on the infants grave. At the top of page you will see Search Tighar, Click on that box then scroll down to " Index for Tighar Tracks". Scroll down list, I think Earhart tracks start from 1987, In these you will find most of your questions answered in these pages