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Amelia Earhart Search Forum => General discussion => Topic started by: Timothy Smith on March 13, 2015, 09:25:09 PM

Title: Cyclone Pam
Post by: Timothy Smith on March 13, 2015, 09:25:09 PM
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/03/13/flooding-vanuatu-kiribati-and-tuvalu-cyclone-pam-strengthens

This is very bad for Kiribati.
Title: Re: Cyclone Pam
Post by: Bill Mangus on March 14, 2015, 07:46:53 AM
Maybe Geoeye can get a new image of Niku after the weather clears for planning purposes.
Title: Re: Cyclone Pam
Post by: Monty Fowler on March 14, 2015, 09:34:48 AM
I feel for these people, many of whom are going to loose what little they do have; and international aid, for whatever reason, doesn't as readily flow to that part of the world.

As an aside, every time one of these big ones plows through the area, a little bit more of Amelia and Fred's legacy gets washed away, forever.

LTM,
Monty Fowler, TIGHAR No. 2189 ECSP
Title: Re: Cyclone Pam
Post by: Friend Weller on March 14, 2015, 10:06:08 AM
But you never know.....maybe the "wheel of fortune" or "surfin' cabin door" might reappear or something new might be dredged up just for the occasion!
Title: Re: Cyclone Pam
Post by: Randy Conrad on March 14, 2015, 11:16:45 AM
In regards to Friend's comments Monty....with a cyclone of that magnitude...does it have an effect on something say if the Electra is down 16,000 ft off of the atoll of Niku. Always curious about how that would have an effect on wrecks and such as this case the upcoming expedition. Would anything be washed away that far down at those depths is mainly what I'm asking?
Title: Re: Cyclone Pam
Post by: Bill Mangus on March 14, 2015, 11:18:57 AM
I wonder if Ric has received a status report from the captain/owner of Nai'a?
Title: Re: Cyclone Pam
Post by: Andrew M McKenna on March 14, 2015, 03:43:52 PM
Randy

The sonar anomaly at 620 ft is too deep to feel the effects of a cyclone.  Probably not much of an effect even below 100 ft, depending upon the size of the waves.

The Norwich City Engine sitting on the edge of the reef, could easily be affected, and I wouldn't be surprised to see that it had finally toppled downslope from its current position.

We'll find out in June.

Andrew



In regards to Friend's comments Monty....with a cyclone of that magnitude...does it have an effect on something say if the Electra is down 16,000 ft off of the atoll of Niku. Always curious about how that would have an effect on wrecks and such as this case the upcoming expedition. Would anything be washed away that far down at those depths is mainly what I'm asking?
Title: Re: Cyclone Pam
Post by: Andrew M McKenna on March 14, 2015, 03:45:42 PM
Here are a couple of sites that give a good idea of what is going on

https://www.windyty.com/?4.259,166.113,4 (https://www.windyty.com/?4.259,166.113,4)

http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-193.36,-12.66,1024 (http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-193.36,-12.66,1024)
Title: Re: Cyclone Pam
Post by: Michael Calvin Powell on March 14, 2015, 04:25:06 PM
Add this one:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/aaron-packard/the-unfolding-crisis-in-kiribati-and-the-urgency-of-response_b_6854386.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/aaron-packard/the-unfolding-crisis-in-kiribati-and-the-urgency-of-response_b_6854386.html)
Title: Re: Cyclone Pam
Post by: Bill Mangus on March 19, 2015, 01:31:50 PM
The Washington Post weather site has posted some before and after pictures.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2015/03/19/not-a-leaf-spared-before-and-after-photos-show-cyclone-pams-devastation/

Title: Re: Cyclone Pam
Post by: Monty Fowler on March 19, 2015, 02:09:29 PM
My God ... if something like that ever hits Niku directly, every remaining clue on the surface will be removed. Forever.

LTM,
Monty Fowler, TIGHAR No. 219 ECSP
Title: Re: Cyclone Pam
Post by: Chris Murphy on March 19, 2015, 07:35:16 PM
My God ... if something like that ever hits Niku directly, every remaining clue on the surface will be removed. Forever.

LTM,
Monty Fowler, TIGHAR No. 219 ECSP

It makes you wonder if any similar storms have hit Niku over the last 75+ years.  How would such storms affect existing artifacts?