Amelia Earhart Search Forum > Celestial choir
LOP-Possible stupid question
Gary LaPook:
--- Quote from: Edgard Engelman on August 25, 2011, 02:07:12 PM ---In fact you can download the entire artice at http://davidkbowman.com/wagner_noonan.pdf.
It was written by H.A.C.van Asten. It would be interesting to have Gary LaPook's opinion on this paper.
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Don't waste your time trying to work your way through the gibberish in Mr. van Asten's two published papers.
We have thoroughly discussed Mr. van Asten's theories on the "Navigating the LOP with the offset method" topic, see:
https://tighar.org/smf/index.php/topic,169.120.html
starting with reply 120
and subsequent posts, especially reply 203 pointing out his 300 NM error in his computation of this "10 mile" error line and his admission of this error in reply 204.
https://tighar.org/smf/index.php/topic,169.203.html
We have also dicussed Mr van Asten's theories on the "Noonan navigation error" thread starting at reply 47 and continuing through reply 80.
https://tighar.org/smf/index.php/topic,383.45.html
The short answer, I can't believe he got his articles published because they are so full of errors. He wrote that he had a surface navigator review his papers prior to publication and I told him his problem was that he didn't have the papers reviewed by a flight navigator, the procedures are quite different.
Here are links to better articles.
http://www.oceannavigator.com/content/celestial-air
http://www.avweb.com/news/avtraining/IFR_bySunAndStars_200781-1.html
gl
h.a.c. van asten:
Mr.gl says that he has "debunked" , always with many words and few arguments , the contents of two articles but in fact he has debunked nothing , neither the consistency nor the relevancy for probability , and without presenting any alternative from himself .
h.a.c. van asten:
Navigator could not determine about great circle and rhumb line distance in the equatorial region , but the principles are different : by great circle the true course is altered from one chord to another and a circle outline is flown , by loxodrome a constant true course is maintained throughout the flight length and an elipsoid outline is followed .
Jeff Scott:
--- Quote from: h.a.c. van asten on August 26, 2011, 12:13:54 AM ---Mr.gl says that he has "debunked" , always with many words and few arguments , the contents of two articles but in fact he has debunked nothing , neither the consistency nor the relevancy for probability , and without presenting any alternative from himself .
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Mr. LaPook has methodically and systematically dismantled your entire argument, pointing out numerous flaws, faulty assumptions, mathematical errors, misconceptions, half-truths, and outright lies in your statements. He's also written an entire site documenting his alternative, a site that is far better supported, documented, justified, and infinitely more readable than anything you've provided. While I find some of your arguments mentally stimulating, they are usually written in such a confusing manner as to make them nearly indecipherable. A course on technical writing would serve you well.
Gary LaPook:
--- Quote from: Jeff Scott on August 26, 2011, 10:43:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: h.a.c. van asten on August 26, 2011, 12:13:54 AM ---Mr.gl says that he has "debunked" , always with many words and few arguments , the contents of two articles but in fact he has debunked nothing , neither the consistency nor the relevancy for probability , and without presenting any alternative from himself .
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Mr. LaPook has methodically and systematically dismantled your entire argument, pointing out numerous flaws, faulty assumptions, mathematical errors, misconceptions, half-truths, and outright lies in your statements. He's also written an entire site documenting his alternative, a site that is far better supported, documented, justified, and infinitely more readable than anything you've provided. While I find some of your arguments mentally stimulating, they are usually written in such a confusing manner as to make them nearly indecipherable. A course on technical writing would serve you well.
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Wow, thanks.
gl