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Renaud Dudon

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Propeller
« on: May 15, 2024, 04:43:31 AM »

Bonjour tout le monde !

I'm launching this topic to gather as much information as possible on one of the most massive objects and most likely to be found regarding the 'White Bird'. This is its propeller.

Before becoming an aircraft manufacturer, Levasseur was renowned in France and Europe for the quality of its propellers. Since 1920, one of his specialties had been fixed-pitch metal propellers of the 'Reed' type (from whom he had acquired the license).

Between 1924 and 1928, Levasseur produced over 150 types of these propellers.

The raw parts were made by Schneider, in Le Creusot, in an alloy specific to this firm: Alférium. These parts were then drilled, machined, shaped and bent to form the propeller pitch in the Levasseur workshops.

The two company had a quite long a profitable partnership here from 1924 to 1935 but finacial weaknesses of Levasseur put an end to it.

Reed propellers were more durable, easier to craft/repair and produced fewer marginal vortices than their wooden counterparts.

In the books I have consulted, Alferium is referred to as Duralumin. There were slight differences anyway.

composition:

Duralumin

Aluminium: 93,5-95%
Copper: 4-5,5%.
Magnesium: 0.5%
Manganese: 0.5%.

Alférium (1922)

Aluminium: 95,15%
Copper: 3,25%.
Magnesium: 0.5%
Manganese: 0.6%.
Silicium : 0,5%

mecanical properties (1929) :

density: 2.85
yield strength: 22 kgs minimum (20 kgs for duralumin)
strength (breaking load): 38 kgs (40 kgs for duralumin)
elongation 16% minimum (20% for duralumin)
Like duraluminium, alférium is quenched at around 450°c.

Alferium is not altered by atmospheric agents or ordinary water. However, it is attacked by salt water and hydrochloric acid.

This comment is, however, theoretical, as depending on the environment of the acidic agents, where the presence of sodium chloride can expose the alloy to significant corrosion.

[edit] I have no idea if Alférium-made propellers were coated by pure aluminium, as alclad items are. [Actually, This is highly unlikely, since the invention of this alloy was not reported until August 1927. From what I've read then, the propellers were most likely varnished.]

From what I've read, Schneider took a long time to find a good compromise between the hardness and ductility of its parts. Alferium generally has a lower copper content than conventional duralumin to improve its strength, but for propeller manufacturers (including mainly Levasseur) this hardness comes at the price of more time-consuming, difficult and costly machining. Also when machined, Alférium (early variants) tends to be more brittle.

Schneider was continuously modifying the components of its product to adapt to its customers' needs. [to be continued below]
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Renaud Dudon

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Re: Propeller
« Reply #1 on: Today at 01:49:14 AM »

Here are two photographs. The first shows the size of L'Oiseau Blanc's unique two-bladed Alferium propeller. The second is a close-up of the PL8 version 2 propeller, powered by a 600 hp Hispano-Suiza 12LbR.

The two propellers weighed over than 120 Kgs and were probably virtually identical, except perhaps for their length.

Surprisingly, sources differ on this point. In the case of the Oiseau Blanc, the reported lengths vary from 3.80 to 3.95M.

As the Hispano is substantially more powerful, it's possible that the extended size of 3.95M applies only to the PL8 version 2.

Such a substantial mass of metal, less likely to disappear than steel, could therefore be one of the targets of future research in Gull Pond.

Of course, the plane's propeller was undoubtedly the element most likely to suffer in the event of a crash. I'm not talking about the fire, which could very well have destroyed the whole thing if it had been sufficiently severe.   
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Renaud Dudon

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Re: Propeller
« Reply #2 on: Today at 02:28:53 AM »

Some more,

There seems to be no fixed, perfectly defined composition of Alférium.

This article, dated (coincidentally enough) May 1927, gives the latest state of knowledge on this alloy.

As far as we know, after 1923, Alférium's composition stabilized at around 4% copper, making it similar to duralumin, except that zinc (between 2 and 8%!) was added to help the part to withstand shocks, cracks and fissures.

Traces of silicon are mentioned, but no manganese.

The metal acquires its properties after reheating to 480-500°C, followed by quenching. Of particular interest is its resistance to water and even seawater (probably due to the presence of zinc). It is virtually unaffected by acids, but cannot withstand sodium hydroxide or potash.

In humid environments, it corrodes on contact with steel parts.
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Jeff Lange

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Re: Propeller
« Reply #3 on: Today at 11:37:39 AM »

That is one big and nasty looking piece of metal to be sitting behind! Those pilots of that era had a lot of courage!
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