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[Scott C. Mitchell]

Ah.  Thanks, Greg. / Scott

[Monty Fowler]

I'm glad we're going to look for the postulated Camp Zero, and I am as always hopeful that Amelia's watch or Fred's Arrow pen will be found right out in the open, but ... we have to remember that the west side of the island, where Camp Zero would most likely have been located, is also the direction that the powerful storms come slamming into the island from, and on a relatively regular basis.

Previous Niku expeditions have found evidence of ocean overwash hundreds of feet back into the brush, and much of the original village area has been either rearranged or basically cleaned off of light surface deposits. The former landing channel marker, a fairly substantial construction, has been completely removed.

But - we might get lucky. I'm more than willing to settle for that.

LTM,
Monty Fowler, TIGHAR No. 2189 CER

[Tim Mellon]

Ric, make it easy on yourself.

[Greg Daspit]

I'm glad we're going to look for the postulated Camp Zero, and I am as always hopeful that Amelia's watch or Fred's Arrow pen will be found right out in the open, but ... we have to remember that the west side of the island, where Camp Zero would most likely have been located, is also the direction that the powerful storms come slamming into the island from, and on a relatively regular basis.

Previous Niku expeditions have found evidence of ocean overwash hundreds of feet back into the brush, and much of the original village area has been either rearranged or basically cleaned off of light surface deposits. The former landing channel marker, a fairly substantial construction, has been completely removed.

But - we might get lucky. I'm more than willing to settle for that.

LTM,
Monty Fowler, TIGHAR No. 2189 CER

 Good point. I noticed the saltwater incursions noted by TIGHAR on some aerials. Maybe storms could help though. It would be nice to get lucky and find aircraft wreckage washed up or uncovered when looking for camp zero. I'll settle for TIGHAR having a safe search, good equipment and just not having bad luck. The 2012 Dive 3 picked up the Glickman Debris field right off the bat, right in an area where it should be. Looking forward to a better look of that area in 2014

[richie conroy]

Hi Ric

Sure I have asked u that question before so my apologies.

Will you's be heading straight for Tighar Target 1\Sonar anomaly or will the 2012 debris field be first on list ?

Also would it be possible to setup a live feed of video getting sent up to ships monitors ? May also bring allot more people and donation to expedition funds

[Monty Fowler]

I like the idea of a live video feed, even though I would undoubtely get motion sick just watching it. I can see where it would have the potential to generate a LOT of extra excitement/enthusiasm/funds/etc. What gives me pause are two factors: 1) Logistics, and 2) Costs.

I'm not up on global communications, but I do know that any kind of satellite communication or live feed would be expensive. If it comes down to a live feed or more days of bottom time for the mini-subs, I vote for more bottom time. If TIGHAR can snag another sponsorship from something like the Discovery Channel, then there would be the issue of them having "first rights" to the Any Idiot Artifact when it's found. Selling those rights could raise a good chunk of the needed cash.

There is also the fine line between serious exploration and cheesy reality TV-type programming. I think we want to avoid the latter, no matter how many new donors it might snag.

LTM, who cut the TV cable awhile ago,
Monty Fowler, TIGHAR No. 2189 CER

[Ric Gillespie]

Will you's be heading straight for Tighar Target 1\Sonar anomaly or will the 2012 debris field be first on list ?

We's be heading straight for the banjo!  Seriously, with two subs in the water we should be able to check both the possible debris field and the anomaly on the first day.

Also would it be possible to setup a live feed of video getting sent up to ships monitors ? May also bring allot more people and donation to expedition funds

The subs have no connection to the surface so video imagery will only be available after they are recovered aboard ship. A live video feed is not in the cards.

[Andrew M McKenna]

Call off the next expedition, I found her….

[Ric Gillespie]

Call off the next expedition, I found her….

Yeah, that's about about what I would expect her to look like after 76 years.

[Dan Swift]

OUCH!  Glad that wasn't a picture of me! 

[Dale O. Beethe]

My goodness, she's "ossified"!

[Bob Miller]

And I hadn't even read about these subs when I took this pic of their home in Hawaii!

[Greg Daspit]

Pisces submersibles help find WWII Japanese sub.
Another article here
YouTube video showing initial sighting (example of lighting at 2,300 feet) here

[Ric Gillespie]

YouTube video showing initial sighting (example of lighting at 2,300 feet) here

I dream of coming upon the Electra wreckage like that. 

[JNev]

YouTube video showing initial sighting (example of lighting at 2,300 feet) here

I dream of coming upon the Electra wreckage like that.

That is a fine dream.