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Jeff Victor Hayden

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Re: NIKU VII
« Reply #60 on: July 05, 2012, 01:14:20 PM »

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Lockheed U-2 and TR series planes. You gotta admire a plane design that requires the pilot to stall it to get it on the ground. Those birds loved to fly, they hated the ground. ;D
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« Reply #61 on: July 06, 2012, 12:43:54 PM »

i have just been reading on sky news that the expert that retrieved the black boxes from Air France crash is aboard ship.

Is that to help find parts, Buried by sediment or is there a possibility parts could be raised on this expedition ?

http://news.sky.com/story/955538/expedition-to-find-amelia-earharts-plane
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Lisa Anne Hill

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« Reply #62 on: July 06, 2012, 03:51:11 PM »

So by now I bet some of you thought I DID stow away on KoK - if only that had been the case. Sigh. ;)

What a great time, though, made possible by Ric's generosity and the friendliness of everyone aboard that I met. I was able to spend Monday afternoon on the boat, even rode down to the refueling dock and back (fun but in truth not all that exciting. Smooth ride)

Ric loved the gift - in case these pictures don't make it up on the Forum, I'll tell you all what it was: Bruce Thomas had the idea to get Ric and the team a bottle of Benedictine as sort of a gag gift (thanks again Bruce for the idea!! Can't believe I pulled it off!). They'll have to "sneak" it on the boat though since the cap'n runs a "dry" boat...

I cannot express enough how nice it was that Ric took the time from his busy schedule to show me around and introduce me to everyone - and if I try to name everyone, I know I will forget someone...but what a class act. I can't wait to hear what happens at Niku!  I've invitied everyone from the team to come to the Battleship Missouri for tours, time permitting, when they return - that is if there aren't any big earthshaking press conferences to announce...well, you know.
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Lisa Anne Hill

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« Reply #63 on: July 06, 2012, 03:56:18 PM »

YAY! Pictures made it! I wonder if it's something having to do with my computer at home? oh well... ???

Almost forgot - Ric wanted me to say "hi" to y'all here on the forum and thank you for your support and good wishes.
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Bruce Thomas

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« Reply #64 on: July 06, 2012, 04:51:03 PM »

So by now I bet some of you thought I DID stow away on KoK - if only that had been the case. Sigh. ;)
I was beginning to worry, Lisa!  Ask Tom.

They'll have to "sneak" it on the boat though since the cap'n runs a "dry" boat...
There shouldn't be any problem there with the cap'n.  After all, you did empty the contents and fill it back half-full of water like I told you, didn't you?  WHAT!!

Seriously, I'm tickled that you got the opportunity to have your own little Earhart75 Symposium there in Honolulu.  Now we'll all have to just be patient until midnight July 11, while the K-O-K imitates a slow boat to China Niku.

Thanks for the update (and especially the pictures!), Lisa.
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Tom Swearengen

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« Reply #65 on: July 07, 2012, 10:06:15 AM »

Hey Lisa=====glad you made it back to shore---thought maybe you did stowaway!!! ;D
Great pics----you'll have to tell us about your mini symposium!
Tom
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Andrew M McKenna

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Re: NIKU VII
« Reply #66 on: July 11, 2012, 08:05:19 AM »

Lets see, in the dailies found here

http://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Niku7/niku7dailies2.html#n708

Pat says "They should arrive at Nikumaroro in the wee hours of Thursday, July 12, local time. They will begin immediately to map the primary search area with the Multi-Beam; if it’s still dark when they finish that, they’ll do a lap around the island (about two hours) to generate a general profile of the reef."


Since local Niku time is UCT +13, that means they should be arriving about now = UCT Weds July 11, 1400 hrs.  Should be 3 am Niku Time, July 12th (Did I get that right?), and they just might have fish in the water by now.


Happy fishing, hook the big one.

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Tom Swearengen

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« Reply #67 on: July 11, 2012, 08:18:46 AM »

you guys are better at keeping time than I am-----but i hope you are right.
so Pat is writing the dailies. COOL----excellent job!
Tom
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Anthony Allen Roach

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Re: NIKU VII
« Reply #68 on: July 11, 2012, 10:31:50 AM »

I thought I read somewhere that the dailies are being posted based on our time and date as of Eastern time in the U.S.  If that is true, then the KOK should arrive in the early morning hour of tomorrow for the U.S., which would be Friday on the other side of the dateline.
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Bruce Thomas

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« Reply #69 on: July 11, 2012, 10:48:53 AM »

Lets see, in the dailies found here

http://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Niku7/niku7dailies2.html#n708

Pat says "They should arrive at Nikumaroro in the wee hours of Thursday, July 12, local time. They will begin immediately to map the primary search area with the Multi-Beam; if it’s still dark when they finish that, they’ll do a lap around the island (about two hours) to generate a general profile of the reef."


Since local Niku time is UCT +13, that means they should be arriving about now = UCT Weds July 11, 1400 hrs.  Should be 3 am Niku Time, July 12th (Did I get that right?), and they just might have fish in the water by now.


Happy fishing, hook the big one.

Andrew

Actually, we have here a similar situation to what AE faced with Itasca at Howland Island, where the ship used a different local time from those on the island, and AE was using GMT.  It gets all confused.

Each night, I've been plotting the lat/long in Google Earth that Pat has put on the webpage, watching the slooooow progress in a "perfectly" straight line of about 213 degrees out of Honolulu (for Ric's sake, it passes comfortably offshore McKean, and headed for the west of Niku).  I've also been comparing her figures to what KoK's daily report is saying (and that seems to conform to the way other vessels I've traveled on) to be a noon-time posting.  So some of my pushpins on GE have "local time" and others say "EDT".  (For a nice GE view, see what Rick Jones has just posted.  I wonder how many of us have been doing the same surrepticiously! ;-) )

In Pat's posting last night that you reference, she spoke of them crossing the equator yesterday (Tuesday) at about 10 minutes before 2 p.m. ship-time.  On the daily report of KoK, they wrote
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POSITION: LAT: 00-13.7 N   LONG: 171-30.2 W
MILES RUN: 217 NM
TOTAL MILES RUN: 1495 NM AV. SPD 9.0 @ 230 RPM
DISTANCE TO GO: 349 NM
CROSSING EQUATOR AT APPROX 1400 HRS. 
WE SHOULD ARRIVE ON STATION NIKUMARORO IS.  APPROX 0300 7/12/12. 
SHIP AND CREW DOING FINE.

(BTW, for weekend noon reports, the daily postings usually don't appear until Monday or Tuesday.  So I guess it's a manual process involving someone back in Honolulu to update that webpage.)

Anthony has just posted something while I've been composing this that sounds right from what I can discern.  From the "APPROX 0300 7/12/12" in yesterday's (local) noon posting, I infer that they aren't (yet) considering themselves to be on the other side of the virtual Kiribati dateline.   Whether they're using Honolulu time, or have pushed their clocks back an hour or two, is unknown to me.  But I'm expecting that as I'm watching TV late tonight, KoK will be slipping past McKean in the mid-afternoon (ship's time).  And when I wake up tomorrow, she'll be carefully preparing to avoid the fringing reef of Niku in the dark of about 3 a.m. (ship's time).   Paraphrasing the late Rodney King, "Can't we all use GMT/UCT?"
LTM,

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Gus Rubio

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Re: NIKU VII
« Reply #70 on: July 11, 2012, 12:44:16 PM »

The suspense is killing me!

The daily updates are great to read, if brief.  I just hope there are no technical or other issues that hamper the search. 

Wishing the TIGHAR crew clear water, cooling winds, and amazing discoveries.
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Matt Revington

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Re: NIKU VII
« Reply #71 on: July 11, 2012, 12:51:12 PM »

Yes there is a lot of suspense especially because even if they find   smoking gun they won't be able to tell us because of the agreement with Discovery.  We will be left to try to decode clues in the daily updates.  It would be nice to have a signal if they find something significant even if they can't give details until they get back to Hawaii or wherever the Discovery news conference would be.
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Andrew M McKenna

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Re: NIKU VII
« Reply #72 on: July 11, 2012, 01:05:14 PM »

OK, according to Pat at TIGHAR Central:

"So far they are planning on staying on the U.S. side of the dateline. It's all pretty arbitrary and it helps everyone keep track of the days so that they get back in time for everyone to make their flights out."

Makes some sense and avoids a lot of confusion.  So it isn't UCT +13, it is UCT - 11 hrs, so they should be arriving there 1200 - 1400 hrs UCT July 12th.

Drat ! another half a day to go.

Andrew
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Dave Potratz

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« Reply #73 on: July 11, 2012, 01:13:29 PM »

I'm figuring/hoping that, info-wise, "the cat" will not be able to stay in "the bag" and the floodgates will open right up (forgive the mixed metaphor  ::) ).

ExCITing?   Oh no, not HARDLY!!  :D

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Anthony Allen Roach

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Re: NIKU VII
« Reply #74 on: July 11, 2012, 01:16:56 PM »

Paraphrasing the late Rodney King, "Can't we all use GMT/UCT?"

That's why we always used to have a big meeting the night before any fleet exercise or amphibious operation, and make sure everyone was on the same sheet of music as to the time.  Of course, we would help the Marines by showing where Mickey's hands should be pointing.   :D
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