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Greg Daspit

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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #75 on: July 19, 2017, 10:31:33 PM »

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Dirk_Spennemann/publication/277964781_Typhoons_in_Micronesia_A_history_of_tropical_cyclones_and_their_effects_until_1914/links/5579fdb608ae752158717c7c.pdf

This has a lot of information on the Jabor dock before the 1905 typhoon with pictures of damage to the "Coaling Pier" or "Gesellschaft"(society) pier. It also includes a map showing where the pictures were taken from and names for structures. Starts on page 115.
The wood decked section at the end was destroyed along with the wood structures on the solid section. The wood section at the end looked larger in earlier pictures. Maybe it was rebuilt with smaller dimensions  after the storm. "The Germania arrives near empty in Jaluit Lagoon about 1911" photo Matt Revington posted looks like it has a smaller wood decked end similar, to the one in the 1935 book.  The double bitt bollard at the end also looks in the same place.
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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #76 on: July 20, 2017, 08:19:12 AM »

Like the smell of napalm in the morning:
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/amelia-earhart-1202499852/
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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #77 on: July 20, 2017, 08:22:13 AM »

First I've heard the authenticity of the book is being question.  Any details?
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Ric Gillespie

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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #78 on: July 20, 2017, 09:02:30 AM »

First I've heard the authenticity of the book is being question.  Any details?

Pure desperation.  The date is a librarian stamp, not a copyright.  So?  Why would a librarian stamp the book as being received in 1935 if it was not received in 1935?  The book is not bound but is two-hole punched and the pages secured with cord - therefore the picture could have been added to the book later.  Really?  The rest of the book puts the photo in context with the authors travels.  There is no evidence that any pages were added later.
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Greg Daspit

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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #79 on: July 20, 2017, 10:03:07 AM »

First I've heard the authenticity of the book is being question.  Any details?

The date is a librarian stamp, not a copyright.  So?  Why would a librarian stamp the book as being received in 1935 if it was not received in 1935?  The book is not bound but is two-hole punched and the pages secured with cord - therefore the picture could have been added to the book later.  Really?  The rest of the book puts the photo in context with the authors travels.  There is no evidence that any pages were added later.
In addition to the stamp, if you look on web page 113 there appears to be a printing notice.
http://dl.ndl.go.jp/info:ndljp/pid/1223403/99?platform=hootsuite

This was translated on this forum by "Bonnie". I ran the character she translated as "printing" through an online translator and did translate to "Printing"
https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/busy-time-for-project-amelia-earhart-flyer.572498/page-8
She also talks about the binding being typical.
See PDF for with her translation annotated to what appears be a printing notice at the back of the book.

Edit: Characters provided below that you can copy and insert into a Japanese to English Translator.

昭和 = Showa (Showa 10 is 1935 http://seinenkai.com/articles/dates.html)
十 = ten
年= year

十 = ten
月 = month

五 = 5
日 = day

印 = mark
刷 = printing
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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #80 on: July 21, 2017, 08:21:59 AM »

First I've heard the authenticity of the book is being question.  Any details?

Pure desperation.  The date is a librarian stamp, not a copyright.  So?  Why would a librarian stamp the book as being received in 1935 if it was not received in 1935?  The book is not bound but is two-hole punched and the pages secured with cord - therefore the picture could have been added to the book later.  Really?  The rest of the book puts the photo in context with the authors travels.  There is no evidence that any pages were added later.

A friend of mine wrote the following about all this:

"Good drama and true facts are only occasional bedfellows"

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Ric Gillespie

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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #81 on: July 21, 2017, 08:25:16 AM »

A friend of mine wrote the following about all this:

"Good drama and true facts are only occasional bedfellows"

And sadly we have reached a point in our society where we have to make a distinction between "true facts" and the other kind.
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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #82 on: July 28, 2017, 12:58:33 PM »

How long does it take the "History" Channel to admit it was wrong to make, let alone broadcast the programme?

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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #83 on: July 28, 2017, 01:05:29 PM »

How long does it take the "History" Channel to admit it was wrong to make, let alone broadcast the programme?

How long does it take for hell to freeze over?
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Greg Daspit

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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #84 on: August 25, 2017, 08:36:41 PM »

This environmental assessment has some information on piers at Jaluit.
Page A-21 has a map of what looks like the dock that exists today.
Page A-29 has a map that shows the "Sydney pier" and the "Jabor Dock".
A-30 has a map that indicates the "rubble from Japanese pier"
https://books.google.com/books?id=kDM0AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA17&lpg=PA17&dq=environmental+assessment+jaluit&source=bl&ots=X_0vCXtkQa&sig=4G6bcGgnCbEsFEEvrWs2INdrpxk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjg9KOm7PPVAhVC5CYKHT56Cg0Q6AEIMTAA#v=onepage&q=environmental%20assessment%20jaluit&f=false
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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #85 on: September 21, 2017, 12:36:58 PM »

We're holding the History Channel's feet to the fire.  We just put this up on the TIGHAR homepage:

The History Channel promised to have their team of investigators “explore the latest developments about Amelia Earhart” – namely, that the photo at the center of their highly-hyped documentary “Amelia Earhart – The Lost Evidence” proved to be from a book published two years before Earhart disappeared. It has now been nearly three months.

Crickets.

No matter which theory of Amelia's fate you favor, fake history hurts everyone.

We ask you to join us in petitioning Paul Buccieri, President of A&E Networks, to broadcast an apology for misleading millions of viewers. To view and sign the petition go to Change.org.
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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #87 on: September 21, 2017, 02:32:04 PM »

Heck, they already have a series of postage stamps. Why not a statue?

TIGHAR funded the building of a memorial on Jaluit to the memory of a hundred Marshallese mistakenly killed in a U.S. bombing raid. Maybe we should have built a memorial to Amelia on the dock.
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Jerry Germann

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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #88 on: September 25, 2017, 06:40:06 PM »


TIGHAR funded the building of a memorial on Jaluit to the memory of a hundred Marshallese mistakenly killed in a U.S. bombing raid. Maybe we should have built a memorial to Amelia on the dock.



Would you have a current photo of the memorial, and does it need anything in way of repair or maintenance, so that we may contribute if need be?
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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #89 on: September 28, 2017, 08:20:34 PM »

https://www.chasingearhart.com/single-post/2017/09/28/A-Hidden-SOS-In-The-Jaluit-Atoll-Photo---Air-Hart-Is-Here

 Good grief!

Interesting how newly captured prisoners could arrange all these events undetected, with hopes that this coded distress signal would be viewed by any would be rescuers in time.
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