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Ric Gillespie

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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #60 on: July 11, 2017, 04:43:42 PM »

The 1935 date slams the door.  Their refusal to accept it just makes them look desperate.
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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #61 on: July 11, 2017, 05:00:58 PM »

If I were that facial-recognition "expert" the next time I went into court to testify, I'd sweat about how the questions of the opposing attorney would rip me a new one. It sounds to me (yes, I admit I watched the show on the History Channel) like this guy got his training from whoever compared Irene Bolam's picture to that of AE.  :D
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Jon Romig

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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #62 on: July 11, 2017, 06:27:15 PM »

I think TIGHAR did a fantastic job responding to this. My term for this kind of thing is "crazy-making." But TIGHAR showed real class despite the temptations.
And it is all wrapped up and put in the garbage in just two days - how often does that happen?!
Congratulations, and thanks again, to Ric and the team.

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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #63 on: July 11, 2017, 07:46:12 PM »

Now to hope... probably in vain... that the media will give the same amount of coverage to the rebuttal as they gave to the "discovery" of this pic and the whole silly story that went with it.

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Alfred Hendrickson

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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #64 on: July 11, 2017, 09:43:27 PM »

"Yamano's evidence, which he says he obtained in 30 minutes, undercuts the History Channel's claim that the famed aviator crash-landed in the Marshall Islands and became a prisoner of the Japanese military."

I like that they point out he obtained the evidence in 30 minutes.

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Leon R White

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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #65 on: July 12, 2017, 12:34:43 PM »

For the history channel researchers currently reviewing the information (You should be looking here by the way): 
Please note that the "beading" aluminum piece, while it may indeed be 99% aluminum, would have to have been removed VERY VERY carefully to avoid tearing the holes. Proving its aluminum doesn't mean it was on an airplane, doesn't prove it was on her plane,  and the JAPANESE copy of the Electra (they did purchase one, by the way, like the Russians) could have also had the beading. The Japanese didn't NEED a copy of an Electra.  If they wanted to hide hers they could have . . . ah . . . pushed it into the water . . . 

You don't have to love TIGHAR to disagree with this so called "special."  Crap journalism is still crap journalism.  The advertisers should ask for their money back.  Mistakes like these damage all historical efforts.

I think it much more likely that if the so called eye witnesses saw Caucasians, they were missionaries mistaken as spies.  Or, they could have been New Zealanders, Aussies, or Brits who were spies.  But I'll defer to the next history channel special "Aliens who helped Japan loose the war in the Pacific." 

I may be harsh, but the careful wording of the various specialists (except the ex-facial recognition guy) shows this was no accidental mistake.  This was purposeful. I'm dropping the history channel unless they do the right thing now.   Very disappointing.  And thank you to all TIGHARs who are contributing actual facts to this discussion.  And Ric, I need the medication you take to get through these situations.  Please send the family-size 50 gallon jug to my home.

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Jim M Sivright

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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #66 on: July 12, 2017, 01:04:03 PM »

The 1935 date slams the door.  Their refusal to accept it just makes them look desperate.

Has the History(sort of) Channel issued any kind of response to the Tighar's announcement disproving their
theory show? It took the Tighar team, what 2-3 days to prove that the photo was bunk, how long was the production of the show? Don't ya think someone would have at least thought of checking it out first?

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Leon R White

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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #67 on: July 12, 2017, 01:07:16 PM »

Google will show a statement that they're reviewing the photo.
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Bill Mangus

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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #68 on: July 12, 2017, 02:25:26 PM »

And it's likely, in my opinion, that's all they'll ever say. 

It's a really a shame how far the History Channel has sunk, putting "breathless journalism" and advertisement revenue above thorough, professional and honest research.  Sad to see someone like Lt Col Hampton led down the garden path by people with a pre-determined conclusion who cherry-picked the stories and ignored all of Tighar's research because it didn't fit with the story they wanted to sell.

Col Hampton should contact Ric if he's interested in learning about the Tighar hypothesis. 
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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #69 on: July 12, 2017, 10:36:42 PM »

Did anyone record this show?

We were out at sea when it was broadcast.  I'd like to see it even though it is not totally debunked.

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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #70 on: July 13, 2017, 01:37:11 AM »

Did anyone record this show?

You may be able to stream it on the History Channel website.

http://www.history.com/specials/amelia-earhart-the-lost-evidence
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Ric Gillespie

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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #71 on: July 13, 2017, 01:51:43 PM »

Col Hampton should contact Ric if he's interested in learning about the Tighar hypothesis.

I know Dan Hampton.  I helped him with his recently published book "The Flight - Charles Lindbergh's Daring and Immortal 1927 Transatlantic Crossing" (Harper Collins, 2017).  He gives me a glowing endorsement in the Acknowledgements:
"Ric Gillespie executive director of The International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery (TIGHAR) made the prologue possible. His exhaustive compilation of reports and personal experiences concerning the disappearance of the White Bird are unparalleled."
I appreciated his compliments and and I hoped to be able to write a glowing review of his book, but it turned out to contain some egregious errors that will be apparent to any pilot. So, as Thumper said, "If ya can't say somethin' nice, don't say nothin' at all."
I had no idea Dan was working with the History Channel on a show about Earhart.  He never asked me anything about it, so don't paint him as a victim.
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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #72 on: July 17, 2017, 12:02:54 PM »

If you check the tighar Facebook page you will see a post about a press release from Republic of the Marshall Islands Ministry of Foreign Affairs that claims the dock in the photo was built in 1936 and therefore the date from Japanese book ( of 1935) is wrong.  The information appears to based on the same elders recollections that also recalls the presence of AE and FN.  In my opinion the wooden dock that most of the figures stand on in the photo looks fairly unworn while the road that leads up to it is much more worn.
There are photos online of a much bigger dock present during the German colonial occupation ( see picture 1) around the turn of the century which may have been destroyed in a cyclone that hit the islands.  The second picture (from this website https://sportshop02.ru/Jaluit/0) is titled "The Germania arrives near empty in Jaluit Lagoon about 1911.".  The dock is mostly obscured  in this photo but what can be seen matches up with what is in the history channel photo
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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #73 on: July 17, 2017, 02:57:46 PM »

If you look at recent pictures of the Jabor or “Jabwor” harbor, there is a dock that looks “L” shaped. If you were looking out from the island the dock has a projection extending from the left side. You can see this in marketing pics as well as google earth. It looks to be made of concrete.

In the older pictures it looks like the sides of the dock are made of wood piles holding back fill.
In the picture published in 1935 there is no extension to the left so it is not “L” shaped at that time and you can still make out the tops of what looks like wood piles. The very end of the dock transitions to a wood deck instead of fill.

I don’t see any tracks/ railway in the picture from the 1935 book but see them in much earlier pictures posted here and on the Facebook page?

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Jon Romig

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Re: New show on history channel about Amelia Earhart
« Reply #74 on: July 18, 2017, 08:54:11 PM »

Did anyone record this show?

You may be able to stream it on the History Channel website.

http://www.history.com/specials/amelia-earhart-the-lost-evidence

It's not currently on the History channel AFAIK, but someone posted it on YouTube on July 12, probably as a bootleg so who knows how long it will be there. I find it hard to watch because of the sensationalizing.

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