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Martin X. Moleski, SJ

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Re: Can you add to the list of sextant numbers?
« Reply #435 on: June 16, 2017, 09:18:10 AM »

If we're going down the statistical analysis road, are any of the 13 sextants I sent through some weeks back going to make the main table ? Might make sense...

I indicated in a post in this thread that I had organized a temporary wiki table and a spreadsheet.

In those tables, I showed where there were problems with your data.  I marked those rows in red and yellow.  You have not replied to the questions I ask there. 

I can add some of the sextants you listed.
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Martin X. Moleski, SJ

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Re: Can you add to the list of sextant numbers?
« Reply #436 on: June 16, 2017, 09:37:54 AM »

I have added the following to the part of the table where we have reasonable good evidence of two numbers (maker's serial number and N.O. number):

|- valign="top"
|align="right"|<!--                  Maker --> Keuffel & Esser
|<!--                            Maker No. --> 470
|style="background:#C9E8FF;"|<!-- Navy No. --> 0107
|<!--                      Inspection Date --> 1942-12-31
|align="left"|<!--                Comments --> [http://www.sharingthepast.com/blog/2015/1/8/vintage-us-navy-sextant-keuffel-esser-made-1887-or-1888-inspected-1942 Manufactured 1887/1888?]  Class: survey.  Lacks stylized N+O.
|<!--                               Bubble -->
|<!--                        N.O. # on box --> Engraved in two places on instrument.  Punch-stamped twice on hingeline of box.  Class: Survey.


|- valign="top"
|align="right"|<!--                  Maker --> Keuffel & Esser
|<!--                            Maker No. --> 14279
|style="background:#C9E8FF;"|<!-- Navy No. --> 330
|<!--                      Inspection Date --> 1931-06-11
|align="left"|<!--                Comments --> [https://new.liveauctioneers.com/item/34350185 Live Auctioneers.]  Class: H.G.  Stylized N+O.  Unusual inlaid U.S. Navy shield with N+O and N+O 330 on it.
|<!--                               Bubble -->
|<!--                        N.O. # on box --> Unusual engraved brass plaque on top.


|- valign="top"
|align="right"|<!--                  Maker --> Buff & Buff
|<!--                            Maker No. --> 13135
|style="background:#C9E8FF;"|<!-- Navy No. --> 1365
|<!--                      Inspection Date -->
|align="left"|<!--                Comments --> [http://www.la-timonerie-antiquites.com/en/antique/620/antique-sextant-1908-buff-amp-buff-us-navy La Timonerie Antiquities.] Manufactured 1908?  Maker number and NO number on instrument.
|<!--                               Bubble -->
|<!--                        N.O. # on box -->


|- valign="top"
|align="right"|<!--                  Maker --> Keuffel & Esser
|<!--                            Maker No. --> 37305
|style="background:#C9E8FF;"|<!-- Navy No. --> 3277
|<!--                      Inspection Date --> 1940-09-20
|align="left"|<!--                Comments --> [https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/98780-very-nice-1919-keuffel-esser-sextant-for-us-navy/ Cloudy Nights.] "1919 K&E Sextant."  Class: Survey.
|<!--                               Bubble -->
|<!--                        N.O. # on box -->


|- valign="top"
|align="right"|<!--                  Maker --> Brandis
|<!--                            Maker No. --> 4244
|style="background:#C9E8FF;"|<!-- Navy No. --> 2561
|<!--                      Inspection Date -->
|align="left"|<!--                Comments --> [https://www.moinat.ch/en/miscellanea/11546-sextant-us-navy-n-2551-par-brandis-son.html Moinat SA,] "Sextant 'US NAVY'' N° 2551 par Brandis & Son."  I read 2561 in the photo.
|<!--                               Bubble -->
|<!--                        N.O. # on box --> "4244" (?) is in ink on the hingeline.  Not visible on photos of instrument.

I put these three in the part of the table that has no NO numbers:

|- valign="top"
|align="right"|<!--                  Maker --> Buff & Buff
|<!--                            Maker No. --> 13024
|style="background:#C9E8FF;"|<!-- Navy No. -->
|<!--                      Inspection Date --> 1919-04-24
|align="left"|<!--                Comments --> [http://www.la-timonerie-antiquites.com/en/antique/620/antique-sextant-1908-buff-amp-buff-us-navy La Timonerie Antiquities.] Manufactured 1908?  Class: Survey
|<!--                               Bubble -->
|<!--                        N.O. # on box --> 13024 on box & inspection. Inlaid shield--seems to be blank.

|- valign="top"
|align="right"|<!--                  Maker --> Brandis
|<!--                            Maker No. --> 5996
|style="background:#C9E8FF;"|<!-- Navy No. -->
|<!--                      Inspection Date --> 1920-10-08
|align="left"|<!--                Comments --> [https://new.liveauctioneers.com/item/37227113#&gid=1&pid=1 Live Auctioneers.] Maker's No.: 5996 crossed out on inspection certificate.  6006 written in green ink.
|<!--                               Bubble -->
|<!--                        N.O. # on box --> 5996 punch-stamped on box in large numbers near hasp.  "Weems 805W" in upper-right corner of certificate--pencil? different ink?  Class: Aviation.  Sticker: "Directional Laboratory Instrument Service, Nautical - Aeronautical - Industrial, Ivanhoe, Baltimore, MD." 

|- valign="top"
|align="right"|<!--                  Maker --> Brandis
|<!--                            Maker No. --> 6006
|style="background:#C9E8FF;"|<!-- Navy No. -->
|<!--                      Inspection Date -->
|align="left"|<!--                Comments --> [https://new.liveauctioneers.com/item/37227113#&gid=1&pid=1 Live Auctioneers.] In box for 5996?  Quadrant?
|<!--                               Bubble --> Yes?  Wired with on/off switch, light.
|<!--                        N.O. # on box --> 5996 punch-stamped on box in large numbers near hasp.  "Weems 805W" in upper-right corner of certificate--pencil? different ink?  Class: Aviation.  Sticker: "Directional Laboratory Instrument Service, Nautical - Aeronautical - Industrial, Ivanhoe, Baltimore, MD." 

== Not added to either list ==

|- valign="top"
|align="right"|<!--                  Maker --> ?
|<!--                            Maker No. --> ?
|style="background:#C9E8FF;"|<!-- Navy No. --> 33?
|<!--                      Inspection Date -->
|align="left"|<!--                Comments --> [https://www.bidsquare.com/l/293/8-inch-radius-brass-sextant Bidsquare.] The "No." is not the stylized N+O found on other instruments. 
|<!--                               Bubble -->
|<!--                        N.O. # on box --> yes? "33" stamped on front in large characters. Inked?  No other indication that it is a U.S. Navy instrument.

|- valign="top"
|align="right"|<!--                  Maker --> Keuffel & Esser
|<!--                            Maker No. -->
|style="background:#C9E8FF;"|<!-- Navy No. --> 350
|<!--                      Inspection Date -->
|align="left"|<!--                Comments --> [https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-us/auction-catalogues/clars-auction-gallery/catalogue-id-srcl10018/lot-b7aed445-891d-40fb-a038-a43000b1110a The Saleroom]
|<!--                               Bubble -->
|<!--                        N.O. # on box -->

|- valign="top"
|align="right"|<!--                  Maker --> Keuffel & Esser
|<!--                            Maker No. -->
|style="background:#C9E8FF;"|<!-- Navy No. --> 438''
|<!--                      Inspection Date -->
|align="left"|<!--                Comments --> [http://sailing.adventures.gr/navigation/antique-wwi-us-navy-keuffel-esser-brass-stadimeter-nautical-sextant-ship-compass/ "Antique Keuffel & Esser Co WWI US NAVY Brass Stadimeter Nautical WW1 Sextant Ships Maritime Compass."] "The stadimeter was designed in 1895 for gunnery purposes, but its first sea tests, showed that it was equally useful for fleet sailing and for navigation. Since it does not require a large instrument, it was ideal for hand-held implementations on US Navy Warships or installation in a submarine’s periscope.  ... A stadimeter is an optical device for estimating the range to an object of known height by measuring the angle between the top and bottom of the object as observed at the device."
|<!--                               Bubble -->
|<!--                        N.O. # on box -->

|- valign="top"
|align="right"|<!--                  Maker --> ?
|<!--                            Maker No. -->
|style="background:#C9E8FF;"|<!-- Navy No. --> 3126
|<!--                      Inspection Date -->
|align="left"|<!--                Comments --> [https://www.skinnerinc.com/auctions/2248/lots/310 Skinner Inc.] sys "Mark II, No. 3126, 1940."  Inspection sticker is illegible in photo.
|<!--                               Bubble -->
|<!--                        N.O. # on box -->

|- valign="top"
|align="right"|<!--                  Maker --> Keuffel & Esser
|<!--                            Maker No. --> 8737
|style="background:#C9E8FF;"|<!-- Navy No. -->
|<!--                      Inspection Date -->
|align="left"|<!--                Comments --> "8737" is punch-stamped on box with "Keuffel & Esser Co / New York."  A Keuffel & Esser sticker says "No. 5225.  Serial 3844 (lined through) "8737" (Added in Red Pencil).  "U.S. Navy" "N" (circled) "No, 8737."  No photo of that engraving.
|<!--                               Bubble -->
|<!--                        N.O. # on box --> Inlaid shield.  Seems blank.
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« Last Edit: June 16, 2017, 09:51:02 AM by Martin X. Moleski, SJ »
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Andrew M McKenna

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Re: Can you add to the list of sextant numbers?
« Reply #437 on: August 09, 2017, 04:41:53 PM »

Another Brandis on eBay today. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sextant-full-size-brass-old-American-made-Brandis-amp-Sons-U-S-Navy-markings-/162622108310?fromMakeTrack=true

USNO # 4070
Brandis # ???  Photos are too blurry to read the Brandis number.

Calibration sticker looks like USNO # 4639 but it is a bit blurry.

Can't see any numbers stenciled or imprinted on the box.

I've asked the seller for the Brandis number and any other numbers he can find.

UPDATE:

Seller has this to say -
 "the small number on the left end is "5106" , the "Brandis # on the calibration sticker is "4639", the line for the Navy # is left blank. The only number on the carrying box is a "5" stamped on the top of the lid. Thanks for your interest. Gary"

So the instrument is
Brandis 5106
USNO 4070

in box that once held Brandis # 4639

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Re: Can you add to the list of sextant numbers?
« Reply #438 on: September 15, 2017, 08:24:26 AM »

Another Brandis on eBay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/American-sextant-in-case-Brandis-Sons-Brooklyn-N-Y-missing-lens-early-20-C/263205325195?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Brandis 5965
No Navy #

Looks like it was never in the Navy inventory.

I seem to be having problems posting photos and will try to get a few up shortly.

AMCK
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Re: Can you add to the list of sextant numbers?
« Reply #439 on: October 18, 2017, 09:16:00 AM »

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Re: Can you add to the list of sextant numbers?
« Reply #440 on: October 18, 2017, 09:24:02 AM »

Brandis 5214 (based upon question answered by seller)
Navy 2900

OK.  Added to the table.
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Re: Can you add to the list of sextant numbers?
« Reply #441 on: October 20, 2017, 09:57:07 AM »

Another Brandis on eBay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/391909847255?ul_noapp=true

This one looks like

Brandis #370 (or 376?)
Navy #936

in box for
Brandis #366 (?)
Navy # 889

I've asked the seller to confirm the serial numbers on the instrument and the box.

This would seem to be an early instrument in that both numbers are relatively low in comparison to what we've seen up to now.

Andrew
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Re: Can you add to the list of sextant numbers?
« Reply #442 on: October 20, 2017, 12:46:51 PM »

I've asked the seller to confirm the serial numbers on the instrument and the box.

This would seem to be an early instrument in that both numbers are relatively low in comparison to what we've seen up to now.


Agreed.


The Navy numbers on the box and the sextant seem quite clear--both 3-digit numbers.


The inked numbers inside the box lid look to me as though they could be four digits instead of three.  That splotch of ink at the end looks like a fourth digit to my eye.

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