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Historic Aircraft Recovery and Preservation => War / Service Related Aircraft topics => Topic started by: Russ Matthews on September 03, 2010, 01:18:34 AM

Title: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Russ Matthews on September 03, 2010, 01:18:34 AM
According to recent articles in the British press, the RAF Museum is planning to recover the wreck of a rare German bomber shot down during the "Battle of Britain."

http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/london/news/article.cfm?headline=W W 2 Bomber on Goodwin Sands

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3122896/Nazi-jet-found-in-sea-off-Deal-Kent.html

Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Monty Fowler on September 03, 2010, 05:04:48 PM
After having been in the ocean for 60-odd years, though ... good luck to them! At least they don't have to worry about it being all crusted over with coral, like a couple of Devastators we all know and love.
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Russ Matthews on September 08, 2010, 05:10:23 PM
A more detailed website dedicated to the conduct and progress of the RAFM Do-17 project has gone active here...

http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/cosford/conservation-centre/dornier-17-conservation-project.cfm
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Monty Fowler on September 12, 2010, 06:41:21 AM
Thanks for the link - looks like these lads are serious. AND this one is in very shallow water. Lucky for them!
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Russ Matthews on September 17, 2010, 03:18:10 PM
Yesterday (16 September, 2010) the Do 17 project team posted underwater video of the wreck that was shot during an investigation conducted three months earlier.  Check it out here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlBKYXHSuhc
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Chris Johnson on September 18, 2010, 12:34:27 PM
Fantastick,  shame the channel is a mercky old place with low viz most of the time.

70 years since the battle of Britain.
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Chris Johnson on April 08, 2011, 04:08:26 AM
Update on BBC News Website

Luftwaffe Dornier 17 at Goodwin Sands 'still intact' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12997528)

Not sure if the iplayer content will work outside of UK
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Russ Matthews on September 01, 2011, 05:06:52 PM
Another update ...

http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/London/news/article.cfm?news_id=405


Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Mark Petersen on September 02, 2011, 09:41:56 PM
"The Royal Air Force Museum has launched today a fundraising campaign to rescue the sole surviving example of the WWII Dornier Do-17 aircraft. "

Sad that there isn't another example of a Flying Pencil around.  I suppose that if we had lost the war the situation would be reversed...
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Monty Fowler on September 07, 2011, 11:11:27 AM
And interesting that this one is going to be displayed "as is," not "restored."
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 31, 2013, 06:18:20 AM
Update
Weather hits recovery (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22721897)
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Monty Fowler on May 31, 2013, 09:46:30 AM
This is not going to end well ...

Monty Fowler,
TIGHAR No. 2189 CER
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Gus Rubio on May 31, 2013, 10:38:49 AM
Godspeed to those working on the recovery, glad to see it will be displayed as-is. 
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Jeff Lange on June 01, 2013, 06:57:34 AM
I am afraid of what is going to occur here.... If they get that aircraft onto the barge even in two pieces it will be a miralce.
You would think that salvage/recovery teams would realize after seeing all the attempts over the last decades, and the delays and disasters that have resulted, that when you are dealing with Mother Nature, you come up with your plan, and the budget for it, then DOUBLE it- to take into account the natural delays and costs that will be encountered.

I too wish them the best of luck, and keep my fingers crossed.
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 03, 2013, 01:16:04 AM
weather interupts attempt (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22746342)
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 03, 2013, 03:55:49 AM
postponed for another week? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22752625)

foolish boy forgot the link
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 10, 2013, 01:40:11 PM
Success (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22846645) :D
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Andrew M McKenna on June 10, 2013, 09:27:07 PM


"Believed to be the only intact example of its kind in the world,..."

Gives new meaning to the word intact, but an interesting recovery nonetheless.

amck
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 11, 2013, 01:39:49 AM
Does seem to indicate that some peices have been left on the sea bed! Wouldn't surprise me either if some of it had been broken off by fishing boats trawling the area.  Suppose there's time to excavate the debris field.
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Chris Austin on June 11, 2013, 08:56:43 AM
As I watched it hanging from the jig at the side of the barge, I thought "That's going to break." Somehow it didn't.
They had got the engines on the report this morning and are going to get the port outer wing today (I think). Then it's up to RAF Cosford for stabilization.
So good to have a positive result after the Burma Spitfires debacle.
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 11, 2013, 09:02:10 AM
It was a bit of a risk doing that way but the cost of a aluminium frame was beyond their budget.  I was worried too that it would fall apart, like the German Plane retrieved from a Fjord in Norway that broke up.  Must find the video for that on.  Defiantly not the way to do it.

link (http://www.namdalsavisa.no/Nyhet/article5126536.ece) from a post by Russ in another thread
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 16, 2013, 12:19:47 AM
Reaches Museum (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22920406)
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Jeff Victor Hayden on June 21, 2013, 10:11:34 PM
Shot down by a Boulton Paul Defiant? How rare is that?

http://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?feature=related&v=3rXwJtIZtP0 (http://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?feature=related&v=3rXwJtIZtP0)
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Chris Johnson on October 16, 2013, 06:33:58 AM
Update (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-24537367)
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Monty Fowler on December 18, 2013, 07:59:58 AM
Sprayed with citric acid to halt the corrosion? Now that is interesting.

LTM,
Monty Fowler, TIGHAR No. 2189 CER
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 10, 2014, 01:44:05 AM
Update (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27768464)

Reminds me a bit of the Hunley
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: Monty Fowler on June 10, 2014, 06:33:55 AM
"The work of conserving this unique aircraft for future generations is proceeding slowly, as staff learn just what it takes to turn a piece of 1930s high technology into a display-ready artefact."

That's going to be TIGHAR by the end of the year, because Niku VIII is going to be the one that finds the any-idiot artifact down in the briny deep.

LTM,
Monty Fowler, TIGHAR No. 2189 ECSP
Title: Re: RAF Museum plans Do 17 recovery
Post by: James Champion on June 13, 2015, 10:01:51 PM
A BBC News update about the ongoing work on this Dornier 17. Looks a lot different with all those barnacles removed. View the short video at this site.   http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-33088253 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-33088253)