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Tim Mellon

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Re: The Slope of the Reef around Nikumaroro
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2013, 09:17:56 AM »

I don't know if it can be determined from old photos how long the "hole" has been there but if it has since 1937, it would seem, to me at least, this might be a place that could hold pieces of an Electra, maybe?

Woody, would you be convinced if you could see parts of engine near by?
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Re: The Slope of the Reef around Nikumaroro
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2013, 11:48:53 AM »

I don't know if it can be determined from old photos how long the "hole" has been there but if it has since 1937, it would seem, to me at least, this might be a place that could hold pieces of an Electra, maybe?

Woody, would you be convinced if you could see parts of engine near by?

Tim, if I could "see" any type of aircraft part I would be convinced. I can't "see" any in this picture.
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Re: The Slope of the Reef around Nikumaroro
« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2013, 01:00:17 PM »

Hi Tim

I don't see anything in your image see first attached pic

Second image shows a man made object in 2012 debris field for sure, Possible fan for removing fumes from fuselage.

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Re: The Slope of the Reef around Nikumaroro
« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2013, 01:37:06 PM »

Ric, any idea what all this chain is from in the picture of the slope you posted in Reply #4 above?

Ah, yes! Now I remember where I saw chains before!


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Re: The Slope of the Reef around Nikumaroro
« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2013, 02:02:45 PM »

Seems to me that both oval stickers are visible on the nearer blade of the propeller: the sticker closest to the hub sits athwart the blade, while the red Hamilton Standard sticker lies parallel to the blade length. An un-annotated shot is provided for magnification, as well as a picture of the actual propeller on NR16020. It seems logical that a propeller might be found not too far from an engine.

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Re: The Slope of the Reef around Nikumaroro
« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2013, 02:50:06 PM »

Richie, I would agree! What you call an "air duct fan" (whether that, or not) is NOT a natural
object in the scheme of things. Further, the pic. speculating the presence of a "prop" I find
very interesting as well as the "cowling and possible cylinders." Keep up the good work.
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Re: The Slope of the Reef around Nikumaroro
« Reply #36 on: February 16, 2013, 03:26:09 PM »

Tim

Once again I think that the lack of scale is misleading everyone.  Your prop would be about 40 ft long in my estimation.  I wasn't part of the team the day those photos were taken, but based upon typical flights the photos were taken from about 200 ft up, so the scale is much larger than you are imagining in your visualization of a prop.

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Re: The Slope of the Reef around Nikumaroro
« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2013, 03:38:58 PM »

Tim

Once again I think that the lack of scale is misleading everyone.  Your prop would be about 40 ft long in my estimation.  I wasn't part of the team the day those photos were taken, but based upon typical flights the photos were taken from about 200 ft up, so the scale is much larger than you are imagining in your visualization of a prop.

Andrew

Thanks Andrew. I thought it looked like a "spur" of the reef and guessed it to be 50 ft.
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Re: The Slope of the Reef around Nikumaroro
« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2013, 05:10:53 PM »

This is what a prop looks like after 70+ years in shallow coral reef tropical waters.  It's from a Brewster F2A-3 Buffalo at Midway.
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Re: The Slope of the Reef around Nikumaroro
« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2013, 05:27:11 PM »

And this is what a 2 propeller blade engine would look like after many years
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Re: The Slope of the Reef around Nikumaroro
« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2013, 05:33:09 PM »

And this is what a 2 propeller blade engine would look like after many years

Where is that Richie?
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Tim Mellon

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Re: The Slope of the Reef around Nikumaroro
« Reply #42 on: February 16, 2013, 06:14:31 PM »

Where is that Richie?

And the chains, Ric? Please explain the chains.
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Re: The Slope of the Reef around Nikumaroro
« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2013, 06:19:03 PM »

It's from a Brewster F2A-3 Buffalo at Midway.

How deep is that Buffalo, Ric? Is it comparable?
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Re: The Slope of the Reef around Nikumaroro
« Reply #44 on: February 16, 2013, 06:25:11 PM »

Thanks Andrew. I thought it looked like a "spur" of the reef and guessed it to be 50 ft.


Woody, in this game guessing, or "speculation", is not good enough. Ric has said so. You could theorize that it is an anteater, or a John Deere 310E backhoe, but "guessing" is just not good enough. Sorry.




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